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Softhackle June 14th, 2005 01:37 AM

Blue Rock Hole and R.B. Winter
 
If you are still out there fishing keep your eyes open and not for
bears. Frank I'll make an exception for you...
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[email protected] June 15th, 2005 12:42 AM

Glad I didn't trip over that guy during my visits. I agree, we need
rain desperately, or we'll continue to see them. At Penns, don't
always assume that the large, black snake in the grass is a black
snake. I came across a black phase rattler near the Clay Bank one
morning during a very dry year. Made the mistake of walking up on it
to inspect the "black snake".

Regarding rattlesnakes, and their bites, do chest waders provide any
protection against their bites? Waders come in varying thicknesses,
and mine are multi-layer, so I would imagine that the ability for a
rattler to penetrate will depend on the type of wader.

Any thoughts?


Wayne Harrison June 15th, 2005 12:44 AM


wrote

Regarding rattlesnakes, and their bites, do chest waders provide any
protection against their bites?


no.

wayno



Mike June 15th, 2005 01:47 AM

Do you want to find out........I am thinking if they can penatrate a
leather boot i really wouldn't want them chowing on my waders unless
they were kevlar of course......... Hey softhackle july 15 weekend work
for you............


Bob Weinberger June 15th, 2005 03:24 AM


wrote in message
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Regarding rattlesnakes, and their bites, do chest waders provide any
protection against their bites? Waders come in varying thicknesses,
and mine are multi-layer, so I would imagine that the ability for a
rattler to penetrate will depend on the type of wader.

Any thoughts?

Regular fishing waders would provide essentially no protection.
But, I recently read that although there were 1248 rattlesnake bites to
humans in the U.S. reported in 2003, only one human death resulted - as
compared to 44 deaths from lightning reported the same year. In a related
vein, a couple of years ago a friend of mine almost lost his hand due to a
reaction he had after his cat bit him. The personnel in the Lewiston
Hospital where he was treated told him that while they had treated 5
rattlesnake bites that year and 3 cat bites, the cat bites caused them
considerably more concern and problems than the rattlesnake bites.


--
Bob Weinberger
La, Grande, OR

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[email protected] June 15th, 2005 03:30 AM

Thanks Bob,
I've been reading similar statistics. With help, I believe most
individuals will be Okay. Discussed with a hiking partner (also my
physician) who pointed out that you'd get fairly sick. Trouble may
come when in a remote area alone. Then, dragging a sore limb while
feeling sick wouldn't be fun.

I guess that's the chance we take when we enjoy the outdoors. Best
protection appears to be good judgment and awareness.

Jeff


Softhackle June 15th, 2005 03:48 AM

Mike that weekend works for me, I'll buy the steaks! At any rate I've
seen 3 rattlers and one black snake in the past 3 weeks. And now its
the time of year for wet wading. It is scary to think all the years I
have been going up there I've never seen them, then all of a sudden
they are all over the place. God knows it would be big trouble to get a
bite 3 miles from the parking lot. Now every time I look down at the
path and see something that even looks like a snake I jump. Only one
shook his tail the others just lay there waiting for someone to walk on
them. Later


asadi June 15th, 2005 04:26 AM

wrote in message
oups.com...
Thanks Bob,
I've been reading similar statistics. With help, I believe most
individuals will be Okay. Discussed with a hiking partner (also my
physician) who pointed out that you'd get fairly sick. Trouble may
come when in a remote area alone. Then, dragging a sore limb while
feeling sick wouldn't be fun.

I guess that's the chance we take when we enjoy the outdoors. Best
protection appears to be good judgment and awareness.

Jeff



I had a buddy that quit going to the Doctor whenever he got bit by a
rattler. He kept them for pets and had been bit several times.

His African Horned Viper did him in. . He was under paramedic care, under
CPR , and tubed for oxygen in less than four minutes...He didn't have a
chance

john




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