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Padishar Creel June 14th, 2005 02:26 AM

Those handy woven loops installed
 
I think this approach is superior. I ordered a fly line from Orvis,
recently, and they used a mono nail knot to tie the woven loop to the fly
line (no glue and no shrink tube). I combined their technique with gluing
and the shrink tube. My newest procedu



1-Put the small piece of shrink tube on the fly line

2-Inchworm on the woven loop to the very end of the fly line (make sure to
butt up the fly line as far as you can go to the loop)

3-Using the large tie fast tool (or similar nail knot tool) wrap 8-12 pound
test line (I liked the 8 better) around the non-loop end to tie the woven
loop to the fly line. I used 10 wraps or so.

4-Zap-a-Gap the area around the knot but no more than the length of the
shrink tube and let it dry.

5-Pull down the small piece of shrink tubing and cover the knot and the
glued area.

6-Heat the shrink tube



Hope this comes in handy for you. I just put together a sinking mini-head
tip to add to my floating line for a trip to the John Day River.



Chris




daytripper June 14th, 2005 03:00 AM

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:26:40 -0700, "Padishar Creel"
wrote:

I think this approach is superior. I ordered a fly line from Orvis,
recently, and they used a mono nail knot to tie the woven loop to the fly
line (no glue and no shrink tube). I combined their technique with gluing
and the shrink tube. My newest procedu



1-Put the small piece of shrink tube on the fly line

2-Inchworm on the woven loop to the very end of the fly line (make sure to
butt up the fly line as far as you can go to the loop)

3-Using the large tie fast tool (or similar nail knot tool) wrap 8-12 pound
test line (I liked the 8 better) around the non-loop end to tie the woven
loop to the fly line. I used 10 wraps or so.

4-Zap-a-Gap the area around the knot but no more than the length of the
shrink tube and let it dry.

5-Pull down the small piece of shrink tubing and cover the knot and the
glued area.

6-Heat the shrink tube



Hope this comes in handy for you. I just put together a sinking mini-head
tip to add to my floating line for a trip to the John Day River.


Well, you created one hell of a stress-riser with the wound mono.
How long does that rig last before the coating fails at the mono?

/daytripper

Padishar Creel June 14th, 2005 03:41 AM

Well, you created one hell of a stress-riser with the wound mono.
How long does that rig last before the coating fails at the mono?

/daytripper

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I'm not sure what you mean, so I will guess. I assume you are talking about
the mono wrap on top of the loop webbing that is on the fly line and
protected by the shrink wrap sleeve. My guess, since I just did it will be
that the shrink wrap will protect the mono wraps for a bit, I would assume.

Since this is an experiment, of sorts, I will keep an eye on it and see how
long it lasts. When if starts to show some wear, I will clip it off and tie
on some new ones.

Chris




Mike Bernardoni June 14th, 2005 04:45 AM

I use the pre made leader loops but with no shrink tube. I use a good
quality(no failure in 3 years) plastic leader connector to connect the
leader and the leader loop together. I add a small drop of super glue
on each knot. Works fantastic. Easy to use and the line floats great
Thanks!!
Mike

Padishar Creel wrote:

I think this approach is superior. I ordered a fly line from Orvis,
recently, and they used a mono nail knot to tie the woven loop to the fly
line (no glue and no shrink tube). I combined their technique with gluing
and the shrink tube. My newest procedu

1-Put the small piece of shrink tube on the fly line

2-Inchworm on the woven loop to the very end of the fly line (make sure to
butt up the fly line as far as you can go to the loop)

3-Using the large tie fast tool (or similar nail knot tool) wrap 8-12 pound
test line (I liked the 8 better) around the non-loop end to tie the woven
loop to the fly line. I used 10 wraps or so.

4-Zap-a-Gap the area around the knot but no more than the length of the
shrink tube and let it dry.

5-Pull down the small piece of shrink tubing and cover the knot and the
glued area.

6-Heat the shrink tube

Hope this comes in handy for you. I just put together a sinking mini-head
tip to add to my floating line for a trip to the John Day River.

Chris


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rw June 14th, 2005 06:00 AM

Padishar Creel wrote:
I think this approach is superior. I ordered a fly line from Orvis,
recently, and they used a mono nail knot to tie the woven loop to the fly
line (no glue and no shrink tube). I combined their technique with gluing
and the shrink tube. My newest procedu



1-Put the small piece of shrink tube on the fly line

2-Inchworm on the woven loop to the very end of the fly line (make sure to
butt up the fly line as far as you can go to the loop)

3-Using the large tie fast tool (or similar nail knot tool) wrap 8-12 pound
test line (I liked the 8 better) around the non-loop end to tie the woven
loop to the fly line. I used 10 wraps or so.

4-Zap-a-Gap the area around the knot but no more than the length of the
shrink tube and let it dry.

5-Pull down the small piece of shrink tubing and cover the knot and the
glued area.

6-Heat the shrink tube


Try a whipped loop. All you need is thread, a bobbin, and a razor blade,
and it slips through the guides better than any woven loop I've ever used.

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Mu Young Lee June 15th, 2005 05:33 AM

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Padishar Creel wrote:

I think this approach is superior. I ordered a fly line from Orvis,
recently, and they used a mono nail knot to tie the woven loop to the fly
line (no glue and no shrink tube). I combined their technique with gluing
and the shrink tube. My newest procedu


I use almost the same method but prefer Loon's UV Knot Sense in the field
and Aquaseal when at home.

Mu

Mu Young Lee June 15th, 2005 05:35 AM

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, daytripper wrote:

Well, you created one hell of a stress-riser with the wound mono.
How long does that rig last before the coating fails at the mono?


The idea behind the the mono is to keep the ends of the braid from
fraying. You should avoid pinching the fly line with the nail knot.

Mu


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