close encounter with a ship
 

We were out on Saturday July 2 again at 750 Square. It is about 40 miles
off of Cape May. A container ship the Evergreen Lines Ever Refine almost ran
us down. I think sportfishermen should report these instances to the coast
guard. I am hearing too many of these stories. Even though they can't do
much about 1 instance , multiple reports will allow them to determine if
there is a pattern to these instances. Following is my letter describing the
incident that I am sending to Evergreen and the Coast Guard

Vessel Ever Refine
Dear Sir:
My son and I were fishing on Saturday July 2nd at 73.53.00 38.55.00
approximately,
when your ship Evergreen Ever Refine almost ran us down.. We were drifting
with our
lines on the starboard side of the boat. Ever Refine approached us from our
port side. The
visibility was restricted to about 1.5 miles. At first I thought the ship
would pass slightly
in front of us, but as it got closer I realized it was going to hit us
amidships. We started
the engines and accelerated to maximum power. We were able to avoid the ship
by 100
feet.

I realize that a large ship has a hard time turning and that we are not
visible to him when he is 0.5 miles away from us. There was 1.5 miles of
visibility and he should have seen us. Rule 5 of the rules of the road state
that a proper lookout by sight and all other means available should be
maintained at all times. If Ever Refine was following rule 5, why did they
not sound a danger signal ?

Rule 6 states that a vessel shall maintain a safe speed taking into account
visibility and stopping and turning ability in the prevailing conditions. If
they were traveling too fast they violated rule 6.

I am unclear how restricted visibility must be to sound fog signals but Ever
refine was not sounding any. Rule 35 states that fog signals should be used
in or near any ares of restricted visibility. 1.5 miles was the maximum
visibility that day. Many nearby areas were restricted to ¼ mile of less.

I am sending a copy of this letter to the US Coast Guard Group, Cape May,
NJ. I also am going to make sport fishermen in this area aware of the
incident and encourage them to report all such encounters to the Coast Guard
to build a case history. I also am going to publicize the incident on the
internet to make all aware of your disregard for human life and safety. You
should inform your captains that even though you are a big company with big
ships, you do not own the ocean.

Sincerely


Captain John W Eppehimer

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Were you in the ship channel? The VTS?

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We were out on Saturday July 2 again at 750 Square. It is about 40 miles
off of Cape May. A container ship the Evergreen Lines Ever Refine almost
ran us down. I think sportfishermen should report these instances to the
coast guard. I am hearing too many of these stories. Even though they
can't do much about 1 instance , multiple reports will allow them to
determine if there is a pattern to these instances. Following is my letter
describing the incident that I am sending to Evergreen and the Coast Guard

Vessel Ever Refine
Dear Sir:
My son and I were fishing on Saturday July 2nd at 73.53.00 38.55.00
approximately,
when your ship Evergreen Ever Refine almost ran us down.. We were drifting
with our
lines on the starboard side of the boat. Ever Refine approached us from
our port side. The
visibility was restricted to about 1.5 miles. At first I thought the ship
would pass slightly
in front of us, but as it got closer I realized it was going to hit us
amidships. We started
the engines and accelerated to maximum power. We were able to avoid the
ship by 100
feet.

I realize that a large ship has a hard time turning and that we are not
visible to him when he is 0.5 miles away from us. There was 1.5 miles of
visibility and he should have seen us. Rule 5 of the rules of the road
state that a proper lookout by sight and all other means available should
be maintained at all times. If Ever Refine was following rule 5, why did
they not sound a danger signal ?

Rule 6 states that a vessel shall maintain a safe speed taking into
account visibility and stopping and turning ability in the prevailing
conditions. If they were traveling too fast they violated rule 6.

I am unclear how restricted visibility must be to sound fog signals but
Ever refine was not sounding any. Rule 35 states that fog signals should
be used in or near any ares of restricted visibility. 1.5 miles was the
maximum visibility that day. Many nearby areas were restricted to ¼ mile
of less.

I am sending a copy of this letter to the US Coast Guard Group, Cape May,
NJ. I also am going to make sport fishermen in this area aware of the
incident and encourage them to report all such encounters to the Coast
Guard to build a case history. I also am going to publicize the incident
on the internet to make all aware of your disregard for human life and
safety. You should inform your captains that even though you are a big
company with big ships, you do not own the ocean.

Sincerely


Captain John W Eppehimer

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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Were you in the ship channel? The VTS?

"Eppefour" wrote in message
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We were out on Saturday July 2 again at 750 Square. It is about 40 miles
off of Cape May. A container ship the Evergreen Lines Ever Refine almost
ran us down. I think sportfishermen should report these instances to the
coast guard. I am hearing too many of these stories. Even though they
can't do much about 1 instance , multiple reports will allow them to
determine if there is a pattern to these instances. Following is my
letter describing the incident that I am sending to Evergreen and the
Coast Guard

Vessel Ever Refine
Dear Sir:
My son and I were fishing on Saturday July 2nd at 73.53.00 38.55.00
approximately,
when your ship Evergreen Ever Refine almost ran us down.. We were
drifting with our
lines on the starboard side of the boat. Ever Refine approached us from
our port side. The
visibility was restricted to about 1.5 miles. At first I thought the ship
would pass slightly
in front of us, but as it got closer I realized it was going to hit us
amidships. We started
the engines and accelerated to maximum power. We were able to avoid the
ship by 100
feet.

I realize that a large ship has a hard time turning and that we are not
visible to him when he is 0.5 miles away from us. There was 1.5 miles of
visibility and he should have seen us. Rule 5 of the rules of the road
state that a proper lookout by sight and all other means available should
be maintained at all times. If Ever Refine was following rule 5, why did
they not sound a danger signal ?

Rule 6 states that a vessel shall maintain a safe speed taking into
account visibility and stopping and turning ability in the prevailing
conditions. If they were traveling too fast they violated rule 6.

I am unclear how restricted visibility must be to sound fog signals but
Ever refine was not sounding any. Rule 35 states that fog signals should
be used in or near any ares of restricted visibility. 1.5 miles was the
maximum visibility that day. Many nearby areas were restricted to ¼ mile
of less.

I am sending a copy of this letter to the US Coast Guard Group, Cape May,
NJ. I also am going to make sport fishermen in this area aware of the
incident and encourage them to report all such encounters to the Coast
Guard to build a case history. I also am going to publicize the incident
on the internet to make all aware of your disregard for human life and
safety. You should inform your captains that even though you are a big
company with big ships, you do not own the ocean.

Sincerely


Captain John W Eppehimer

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Do you have charts. They could very well be in the designated ship movement
area. Called a separation zone.

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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Were you in the ship channel? The VTS?

"Eppefour" wrote in message
...
We were out on Saturday July 2 again at 750 Square. It is about 40 miles
off of Cape May. A container ship the Evergreen Lines Ever Refine almost
ran us down. I think sportfishermen should report these instances to the
coast guard. I am hearing too many of these stories. Even though they
can't do much about 1 instance , multiple reports will allow them to
determine if there is a pattern to these instances. Following is my
letter describing the incident that I am sending to Evergreen and the
Coast Guard

Vessel Ever Refine
Dear Sir:
My son and I were fishing on Saturday July 2nd at 73.53.00 38.55.00
approximately,
when your ship Evergreen Ever Refine almost ran us down.. We were
drifting with our
lines on the starboard side of the boat. Ever Refine approached us from
our port side. The
visibility was restricted to about 1.5 miles. At first I thought the
ship would pass slightly
in front of us, but as it got closer I realized it was going to hit us
amidships. We started
the engines and accelerated to maximum power. We were able to avoid the
ship by 100
feet.

I realize that a large ship has a hard time turning and that we are not
visible to him when he is 0.5 miles away from us. There was 1.5 miles of
visibility and he should have seen us. Rule 5 of the rules of the road
state that a proper lookout by sight and all other means available
should be maintained at all times. If Ever Refine was following rule 5,
why did they not sound a danger signal ?

Rule 6 states that a vessel shall maintain a safe speed taking into
account visibility and stopping and turning ability in the prevailing
conditions. If they were traveling too fast they violated rule 6.

I am unclear how restricted visibility must be to sound fog signals but
Ever refine was not sounding any. Rule 35 states that fog signals should
be used in or near any ares of restricted visibility. 1.5 miles was the
maximum visibility that day. Many nearby areas were restricted to ¼ mile
of less.

I am sending a copy of this letter to the US Coast Guard Group, Cape
May, NJ. I also am going to make sport fishermen in this area aware of
the incident and encourage them to report all such encounters to the
Coast Guard to build a case history. I also am going to publicize the
incident on the internet to make all aware of your disregard for human
life and safety. You should inform your captains that even though you
are a big company with big ships, you do not own the ocean.

Sincerely


Captain John W Eppehimer

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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Do you have charts. They could very well be in the designated ship
movement area. Called a separation zone.

"Eppefour" wrote in message
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no we were 38 miles offshore in the open ocean

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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Were you in the ship channel? The VTS?

"Eppefour" wrote in message
...
We were out on Saturday July 2 again at 750 Square. It is about 40
miles off of Cape May. A container ship the Evergreen Lines Ever Refine
almost ran us down. I think sportfishermen should report these
instances to the coast guard. I am hearing too many of these stories.
Even though they can't do much about 1 instance , multiple reports will
allow them to determine if there is a pattern to these instances.
Following is my letter describing the incident that I am sending to
Evergreen and the Coast Guard

Vessel Ever Refine
Dear Sir:
My son and I were fishing on Saturday July 2nd at 73.53.00 38.55.00
approximately,
when your ship Evergreen Ever Refine almost ran us down.. We were
drifting with our
lines on the starboard side of the boat. Ever Refine approached us from
our port side. The
visibility was restricted to about 1.5 miles. At first I thought the
ship would pass slightly
in front of us, but as it got closer I realized it was going to hit us
amidships. We started
the engines and accelerated to maximum power. We were able to avoid the
ship by 100
feet.

I realize that a large ship has a hard time turning and that we are not
visible to him when he is 0.5 miles away from us. There was 1.5 miles
of visibility and he should have seen us. Rule 5 of the rules of the
road state that a proper lookout by sight and all other means available
should be maintained at all times. If Ever Refine was following rule 5,
why did they not sound a danger signal ?

Rule 6 states that a vessel shall maintain a safe speed taking into
account visibility and stopping and turning ability in the prevailing
conditions. If they were traveling too fast they violated rule 6.

I am unclear how restricted visibility must be to sound fog signals but
Ever refine was not sounding any. Rule 35 states that fog signals
should be used in or near any ares of restricted visibility. 1.5 miles
was the maximum visibility that day. Many nearby areas were restricted
to ¼ mile of less.

I am sending a copy of this letter to the US Coast Guard Group, Cape
May, NJ. I also am going to make sport fishermen in this area aware of
the incident and encourage them to report all such encounters to the
Coast Guard to build a case history. I also am going to publicize the
incident on the internet to make all aware of your disregard for human
life and safety. You should inform your captains that even though you
are a big company with big ships, you do not own the ocean.

Sincerely


Captain John W Eppehimer

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Kind of a tough call. It seems like you had the "right of way" considering
your location and the ship should have at least contacted you on 16 but he
might could argue that he couldn't manuver well enough to avoid you. See
this link. http://www.boatingbasicsonline.com/c...ting/6_2_b.php
LD

"Eppefour" wrote in message
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No the separation zone is well south of us.

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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Do you have charts. They could very well be in the designated ship
movement area. Called a separation zone.

"Eppefour" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Were you in the ship channel? The VTS?

"Eppefour" wrote in message
...
We were out on Saturday July 2 again at 750 Square. It is about 40
miles off of Cape May. A container ship the Evergreen Lines Ever
Refine
almost ran us down. I think sportfishermen should report these
instances to the coast guard. I am hearing too many of these stories.
Even though they can't do much about 1 instance , multiple reports
will
allow them to determine if there is a pattern to these instances.
Following is my letter describing the incident that I am sending to
Evergreen and the Coast Guard

Vessel Ever Refine
Dear Sir:
My son and I were fishing on Saturday July 2nd at 73.53.00 38.55.00
approximately,
when your ship Evergreen Ever Refine almost ran us down.. We were
drifting with our
lines on the starboard side of the boat. Ever Refine approached us
from
our port side. The
visibility was restricted to about 1.5 miles. At first I thought the
ship would pass slightly
in front of us, but as it got closer I realized it was going to hit
us
amidships. We started
the engines and accelerated to maximum power. We were able to avoid
the
ship by 100
feet.

I realize that a large ship has a hard time turning and that we are
not
visible to him when he is 0.5 miles away from us. There was 1.5 miles
of visibility and he should have seen us. Rule 5 of the rules of the
road state that a proper lookout by sight and all other means
available
should be maintained at all times. If Ever Refine was following rule
5,
why did they not sound a danger signal ?

Rule 6 states that a vessel shall maintain a safe speed taking into
account visibility and stopping and turning ability in the prevailing
conditions. If they were traveling too fast they violated rule 6.

I am unclear how restricted visibility must be to sound fog signals
but
Ever refine was not sounding any. Rule 35 states that fog signals
should be used in or near any ares of restricted visibility. 1.5
miles
was the maximum visibility that day. Many nearby areas were
restricted
to ¼ mile of less.

I am sending a copy of this letter to the US Coast Guard Group, Cape
May, NJ. I also am going to make sport fishermen in this area aware
of
the incident and encourage them to report all such encounters to the
Coast Guard to build a case history. I also am going to publicize the
incident on the internet to make all aware of your disregard for
human
life and safety. You should inform your captains that even though you
are a big company with big ships, you do not own the ocean.

Sincerely


Captain John W Eppehimer

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To sit there and wait and see if the larger, LESS MANUVERABLE VESSEL, is
going to avoid you is just plain stupid. Who gives a sh!t if you were
fishing. The
fact is that you should have taken action long before you did. Rules of the
road be damned....use some common sense.

"Eppefour" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Were you in the ship channel? The VTS?

"Eppefour" wrote in message
...
We were out on Saturday July 2 again at 750 Square. It is about 40 miles
off of Cape May. A container ship the Evergreen Lines Ever Refine almost
ran us down. I think sportfishermen should report these instances to the
coast guard. I am hearing too many of these stories. Even though they
can't do much about 1 instance , multiple reports will allow them to
determine if there is a pattern to these instances. Following is my
letter describing the incident that I am sending to Evergreen and the
Coast Guard

Vessel Ever Refine
Dear Sir:
My son and I were fishing on Saturday July 2nd at 73.53.00 38.55.00
approximately,
when your ship Evergreen Ever Refine almost ran us down.. We were
drifting with our
lines on the starboard side of the boat. Ever Refine approached us from
our port side. The
visibility was restricted to about 1.5 miles. At first I thought the
ship would pass slightly
in front of us, but as it got closer I realized it was going to hit us
amidships. We started
the engines and accelerated to maximum power. We were able to avoid the
ship by 100
feet.

I realize that a large ship has a hard time turning and that we are not
visible to him when he is 0.5 miles away from us. There was 1.5 miles of
visibility and he should have seen us. Rule 5 of the rules of the road
state that a proper lookout by sight and all other means available
should be maintained at all times. If Ever Refine was following rule 5,
why did they not sound a danger signal ?

Rule 6 states that a vessel shall maintain a safe speed taking into
account visibility and stopping and turning ability in the prevailing
conditions. If they were traveling too fast they violated rule 6.

I am unclear how restricted visibility must be to sound fog signals but
Ever refine was not sounding any. Rule 35 states that fog signals should
be used in or near any ares of restricted visibility. 1.5 miles was the
maximum visibility that day. Many nearby areas were restricted to ¼ mile
of less.

I am sending a copy of this letter to the US Coast Guard Group, Cape
May, NJ. I also am going to make sport fishermen in this area aware of
the incident and encourage them to report all such encounters to the
Coast Guard to build a case history. I also am going to publicize the
incident on the internet to make all aware of your disregard for human
life and safety. You should inform your captains that even though you
are a big company with big ships, you do not own the ocean.

Sincerely


Captain John W Eppehimer

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you had to take some time to evaluate the ships movement. At the distance we
spotted him- 1.5 miles , moving the wrong direction would have been
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To sit there and wait and see if the larger, LESS MANUVERABLE VESSEL, is
going to avoid you is just plain stupid. Who gives a sh!t if you were
fishing. The
fact is that you should have taken action long before you did. Rules of
the road be damned....use some common sense.

"Eppefour" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Were you in the ship channel? The VTS?

"Eppefour" wrote in message
...
We were out on Saturday July 2 again at 750 Square. It is about 40
miles off of Cape May. A container ship the Evergreen Lines Ever Refine
almost ran us down. I think sportfishermen should report these
instances to the coast guard. I am hearing too many of these stories.
Even though they can't do much about 1 instance , multiple reports will
allow them to determine if there is a pattern to these instances.
Following is my letter describing the incident that I am sending to
Evergreen and the Coast Guard

Vessel Ever Refine
Dear Sir:
My son and I were fishing on Saturday July 2nd at 73.53.00 38.55.00
approximately,
when your ship Evergreen Ever Refine almost ran us down.. We were
drifting with our
lines on the starboard side of the boat. Ever Refine approached us from
our port side. The
visibility was restricted to about 1.5 miles. At first I thought the
ship would pass slightly
in front of us, but as it got closer I realized it was going to hit us
amidships. We started
the engines and accelerated to maximum power. We were able to avoid the
ship by 100
feet.

I realize that a large ship has a hard time turning and that we are not
visible to him when he is 0.5 miles away from us. There was 1.5 miles
of visibility and he should have seen us. Rule 5 of the rules of the
road state that a proper lookout by sight and all other means available
should be maintained at all times. If Ever Refine was following rule 5,
why did they not sound a danger signal ?

Rule 6 states that a vessel shall maintain a safe speed taking into
account visibility and stopping and turning ability in the prevailing
conditions. If they were traveling too fast they violated rule 6.

I am unclear how restricted visibility must be to sound fog signals but
Ever refine was not sounding any. Rule 35 states that fog signals
should be used in or near any ares of restricted visibility. 1.5 miles
was the maximum visibility that day. Many nearby areas were restricted
to ¼ mile of less.

I am sending a copy of this letter to the US Coast Guard Group, Cape
May, NJ. I also am going to make sport fishermen in this area aware of
the incident and encourage them to report all such encounters to the
Coast Guard to build a case history. I also am going to publicize the
incident on the internet to make all aware of your disregard for human
life and safety. You should inform your captains that even though you
are a big company with big ships, you do not own the ocean.

Sincerely


Captain John W Eppehimer

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