My dilemma
 

Here it is. This past weekend I had 2 tournaments. I did well both
days taking 1st and 2nd respectively. That's not the problem. Toward the
end of each tournament, I got into a big fish, both over 3 pounds. Both
times they took my senko at the end of a long cast, I set the hook, and they
both jumped and shook me out. The problem is that I think my hookset isn't
getting the job done with 10 pound test at 130 feet, too much stretch.
Now I've decided to go with some Power Pro to improve my long distance
hookset, but I'd like to use a leader of copolymer line that I have. Here's
the problem, when I tie a blood knot, the slippery co-polymer line slides
right out. Is there a knot I can use that's easy and will connect a slick
line with braid? If I lose a fish because my knot slipped out I'll really
be upset. I have some 20 pounds to make up to get back to the top 6 and I
only have 5 more tournaments to do it. I can't afford to lose another 7
pounds in the next 2 tournaments. Any help?

Rich P

Rich P wrote:
Here it is. This past weekend I had 2 tournaments. I did well both
days taking 1st and 2nd respectively. That's not the problem. Toward the
end of each tournament, I got into a big fish, both over 3 pounds. Both
times they took my senko at the end of a long cast, I set the hook, and they
both jumped and shook me out. The problem is that I think my hookset isn't
getting the job done with 10 pound test at 130 feet, too much stretch.
Now I've decided to go with some Power Pro to improve my long distance
hookset, but I'd like to use a leader of copolymer line that I have. Here's
the problem, when I tie a blood knot, the slippery co-polymer line slides
right out. Is there a knot I can use that's easy and will connect a slick
line with braid? If I lose a fish because my knot slipped out I'll really
be upset. I have some 20 pounds to make up to get back to the top 6 and I
only have 5 more tournaments to do it. I can't afford to lose another 7
pounds in the next 2 tournaments. Any help?

Rich P


Rich,

I personally use the surgeons knot to join a braid to a fluoro . Never
have a problem with slippage or breakage.


Chris

Rich P wrote:
Here it is. This past weekend I had 2 tournaments. I did well both
days taking 1st and 2nd respectively. That's not the problem. Toward the
end of each tournament, I got into a big fish, both over 3 pounds. Both
times they took my senko at the end of a long cast, I set the hook, and they
both jumped and shook me out. The problem is that I think my hookset isn't
getting the job done with 10 pound test at 130 feet, too much stretch.
Now I've decided to go with some Power Pro to improve my long distance
hookset, but I'd like to use a leader of copolymer line that I have. Here's
the problem, when I tie a blood knot, the slippery co-polymer line slides
right out. Is there a knot I can use that's easy and will connect a slick
line with braid? If I lose a fish because my knot slipped out I'll really
be upset. I have some 20 pounds to make up to get back to the top 6 and I
only have 5 more tournaments to do it. I can't afford to lose another 7
pounds in the next 2 tournaments. Any help?

Rich P



Use a double Uni knot, or a double nail knot, I have never had a double
nail knot slip out when tying braid to anything

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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:21:14 -0400, "Rich P"
wrote:

Here it is. This past weekend I had 2 tournaments. I did well both
days taking 1st and 2nd respectively. That's not the problem. Toward the
end of each tournament, I got into a big fish, both over 3 pounds. Both
times they took my senko at the end of a long cast, I set the hook, and they
both jumped and shook me out. The problem is that I think my hookset isn't
getting the job done with 10 pound test at 130 feet, too much stretch.
Now I've decided to go with some Power Pro to improve my long distance
hookset, but I'd like to use a leader of copolymer line that I have. Here's
the problem, when I tie a blood knot, the slippery co-polymer line slides
right out. Is there a knot I can use that's easy and will connect a slick
line with braid? If I lose a fish because my knot slipped out I'll really
be upset. I have some 20 pounds to make up to get back to the top 6 and I
only have 5 more tournaments to do it. I can't afford to lose another 7
pounds in the next 2 tournaments. Any help?

Rich P


Rich, uni 2 uni worked like a charm for me when I still felt the need
to use a leader. I've busted flouro leaders at the hook on a hookset
but never had one slip or cut where I joined the two lines. Just make
sure you moisten the knots before you cinch them up, I have cut the
leader cinching up a dry knot.

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.brooklynbillstackleshop.com
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"Rich P" wrote in message
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hookset, but I'd like to use a leader of copolymer line that I have.

What is the reason for this?

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:21:14 -0400, "Rich P"
sent into the ether:

Here it is. This past weekend I had 2 tournaments. I did well both
days taking 1st and 2nd respectively. That's not the problem. Toward the
end of each tournament, I got into a big fish, both over 3 pounds. Both
times they took my senko at the end of a long cast, I set the hook, and they
both jumped and shook me out. The problem is that I think my hookset isn't
getting the job done with 10 pound test at 130 feet, too much stretch.
Now I've decided to go with some Power Pro to improve my long distance
hookset, but I'd like to use a leader of copolymer line that I have. Here's
the problem, when I tie a blood knot, the slippery co-polymer line slides
right out. Is there a knot I can use that's easy and will connect a slick
line with braid? If I lose a fish because my knot slipped out I'll really
be upset. I have some 20 pounds to make up to get back to the top 6 and I
only have 5 more tournaments to do it. I can't afford to lose another 7
pounds in the next 2 tournaments. Any help?

Rich P

Rich, don't forget to reset the drag for the no stretch PP. I have
mine set to kick in on really hard hooksets. Most of the time I
hookset with a snap of the wrist or a sweep now. When I forgot to
readjust the drag or used mondo (ask Jerry Barton) hooksets I lost
fish by tearing out the hook.

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Rich P wrote:
Now I've decided to go with some Power Pro to improve my long distance
hookset, but I'd like to use a leader of copolymer line that I have. Here's
the problem,


Lose the leader and tie the braid directly to the hook. Put a drop of
super glue on the knot to keep the braid from sliding around, finding
the end of wire and working its way out of there at an inopportune moment.

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:19:38 -0400, RichZ
wrote:

Rich P wrote:
Now I've decided to go with some Power Pro to improve my long distance
hookset, but I'd like to use a leader of copolymer line that I have. Here's
the problem,


Lose the leader and tie the braid directly to the hook. Put a drop of
super glue on the knot to keep the braid from sliding around, finding
the end of wire and working its way out of there at an inopportune moment.


Rich P can correct me if I am wrong, but the leader would be a
confidence thing for him. IIRC he believes he gets more bites with the
mono than he did with superline. This may be the reason for wanting to
use a low vis leader.

You can correct me if I am wrong, but I am of the belief that a bass'
lateral line is a lot more sensitive to the environment than its
eyesight. In which case the line could be perfectly invisible and the
bass would still know it is there unless the line is perfectly still
too. You could always use black marker to break up the silhouette of
the line.

Then again, what do I know. Listen to Mr Z. =)


Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
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"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
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Don't tie on the leader, just fish the braid, long distance hooksets won't
be a problem, the fish don't care if you have a leader or not

My thoughts exactly.
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Good to see you posting Steve, Glad you had a safe trip.

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"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
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Don't tie on the leader, just fish the braid, long distance hooksets
won't be a problem, the fish don't care if you have a leader or not

My thoughts exactly.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com