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Vittorix July 26th, 2005 08:30 PM

How fishes see the color?
 
I have the suspect that all these colors in the baits attract more the
fisherman that the fish :)
Is there a rigorous study about how different fishes see and react the
colors?

--
ciao
Vittorix



Chris Rennert July 26th, 2005 08:39 PM

Vittorix wrote:
I have the suspect that all these colors in the baits attract more the
fisherman that the fish :)
Is there a rigorous study about how different fishes see and react the
colors?

Check out "What fish see" & "Knowing Bass" , both get pretty in depth
into the vision of fish. "What fish see" is based more on Salmon and
Steelhead on the west coast , btu "Knowing Bass" is as the title
suggests, written from a Biologist at Pure FIshing (Berkley).

I have read them both a couple times. Very in depth, and scientific.

Chris

Vittorix July 26th, 2005 08:45 PM

Chris Rennert wrote:

I have the suspect that all these colors in the baits attract more
the fisherman that the fish :)
Is there a rigorous study about how different fishes see and react
the colors?

Check out "What fish see" & "Knowing Bass" , both get pretty in depth
into the vision of fish. "What fish see" is based more on Salmon and
Steelhead on the west coast , btu "Knowing Bass" is as the title
suggests, written from a Biologist at Pure FIshing (Berkley).

I have read them both a couple times. Very in depth, and scientific.


so, tell us: what conclusion they arrive to?

--
ciao
Vittorix



Chris Rennert July 26th, 2005 08:48 PM

Vittorix wrote:
Chris Rennert wrote:


I have the suspect that all these colors in the baits attract more
the fisherman that the fish :)
Is there a rigorous study about how different fishes see and react
the colors?


Check out "What fish see" & "Knowing Bass" , both get pretty in depth
into the vision of fish. "What fish see" is based more on Salmon and
Steelhead on the west coast , btu "Knowing Bass" is as the title
suggests, written from a Biologist at Pure FIshing (Berkley).

I have read them both a couple times. Very in depth, and scientific.



so, tell us: what conclusion they arrive to?

IN a nutshell, Bass are very sensitive to certain colors, and not as
sensitive to others. Some colors they conclude they can determine
different shades of the same color, while other colors blend in and are
either just light or dark contrasts.

Chris

Vittorix July 26th, 2005 10:13 PM

Chris Rennert wrote:

I have the suspect that all these colors in the baits attract more
the fisherman that the fish :)
Is there a rigorous study about how different fishes see and react
the colors?


Check out "What fish see" & "Knowing Bass" , both get pretty in
depth into the vision of fish. "What fish see" is based more on
Salmon and Steelhead on the west coast , btu "Knowing Bass" is as
the title suggests, written from a Biologist at Pure FIshing
(Berkley). I have read them both a couple times. Very in depth, and
scientific.



so, tell us: what conclusion they arrive to?

IN a nutshell, Bass are very sensitive to certain colors, and not as
sensitive to others. Some colors they conclude they can determine
different shades of the same color, while other colors blend in and
are either just light or dark contrasts.


good. so which are the colors they are more sensitive to?
isn't there a scale?

--
ciao
Vittorix



David H. Lipman July 26th, 2005 11:03 PM

From: "Vittorix"


|
| good. so which are the colors they are more sensitive to?
| isn't there a scale?
|
| --
| ciao
| Vittorix
|

Red !

The colour of blood is seen by most fish and can invoke a reaction. However, the tone
variation may make a difference.

I find that Blue Fish and Striped Bass have good sight and that's why I don't use black or
steel coloured leaders. I find a camouflaged leader works much better. Besides the weight
issue, the transition between red, clear and green helps the leader material to not be see
by blending into the background.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Joe Haubenreich July 27th, 2005 01:44 PM

Vittorix, you asked for a rigorous study. Two were suggested to you; yet you
asked for the conclusions rather than go find the studies yourself. That
being the case, I won't refer you to other studies (there are a few more
that I've come across), but will just summarize.

Yes... there are a few rigorous studies. Plenty of room for more, if you're
into that.

Yes... colors make a difference to fish... and to your fishing success.

Yes... colors have to first catch the fisherman before they will catch the
fish. So there are more color options, patterns, and fancy decal jobs than
are essential to catch fish. But make no mistake... most anglers choose
their equipment (boat, rods, clothing, lures, etc.) for both the esthetics
as well as the performance. Both contribute to their enjoyment of the sport.

If you're interested. go to our archive site, http://rofb.net, and type
"color mean anything" in the Google search. Then read the first article... a
string started by Craig Baugher, with worthwhile contributions by a number
of regulars.
--
Joe Haubenreich
Secret Weapon Lures
Web: secretweaponlures.com
---------------------------------------
Better designs... better lures.... better results
---------------------------------------~ 0")))

"Vittorix" wrote in message
...
I have the suspect that all these colors in the baits attract more the
fisherman that the fish :)
Is there a rigorous study about how different fishes see and react the
colors?

--
ciao
Vittorix




Chris Rennert July 27th, 2005 01:56 PM

Joe Haubenreich wrote:
Vittorix, you asked for a rigorous study. Two were suggested to you; yet you
asked for the conclusions rather than go find the studies yourself. That
being the case, I won't refer you to other studies (there are a few more
that I've come across), but will just summarize.

Yes... there are a few rigorous studies. Plenty of room for more, if you're
into that.

Yes... colors make a difference to fish... and to your fishing success.

Yes... colors have to first catch the fisherman before they will catch the
fish. So there are more color options, patterns, and fancy decal jobs than
are essential to catch fish. But make no mistake... most anglers choose
their equipment (boat, rods, clothing, lures, etc.) for both the esthetics
as well as the performance. Both contribute to their enjoyment of the sport.

If you're interested. go to our archive site, http://rofb.net, and type
"color mean anything" in the Google search. Then read the first article... a
string started by Craig Baugher, with worthwhile contributions by a number
of regulars.

Thanks Joe, I didn't want to say it, but I was thinking the same thing.

Chris

Dr Epstein July 27th, 2005 04:47 PM


"Vittorix" wrote in message
...
I have the suspect that all these colors in the baits attract more the
fisherman that the fish :)
Is there a rigorous study about how different fishes see and react the
colors?

--
ciao
Vittorix



Does anyone besides me remeber a color-meter gadget that was sold about 20
years ago?
You rolled the cable down into the water and a gauge told you the best color
lure to use.




Bob La Londe July 27th, 2005 04:47 PM

"Dr Epstein" wrote in message
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"Vittorix" wrote in message
...
I have the suspect that all these colors in the baits attract more the
fisherman that the fish :)
Is there a rigorous study about how different fishes see and react the
colors?

--
ciao
Vittorix



Does anyone besides me remeber a color-meter gadget that was sold about 20
years ago?
You rolled the cable down into the water and a gauge told you the best
color
lure to use.




Yup. The Color-C-Lector or something like that. They have a new digital
version available.


--
Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com




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