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wcrbudox September 3rd, 2005 03:22 AM

Orleans Thinkin
 
Wonder if it is plausable or workable for the various Fishing Clubs and
Tournament trails to properly prepare and and ship their catches to the
Salvation Army, Red Cross, or local groups in Orleans rather than throw all
of them back?
I don't know what the authorities views might be, obviously but it might
possible be helpful.
Any insights??



Jeff September 3rd, 2005 03:52 AM


"wcrbudox" wrote in message
...
Wonder if it is plausable or workable for the various Fishing Clubs and
Tournament trails to properly prepare and and ship their catches to the
Salvation Army, Red Cross, or local groups in Orleans rather than throw

all
of them back?
I don't know what the authorities views might be, obviously but it might
possible be helpful.
Any insights??



RC and SA isnt even accepting Bottled Water and Gatorade, they want cash so
I would think raw fish is probably out of the question.



Cyli September 3rd, 2005 05:39 AM

On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 21:22:22 -0500, "wcrbudox" wrote:

Wonder if it is plausable or workable for the various Fishing Clubs and
Tournament trails to properly prepare and and ship their catches to the
Salvation Army, Red Cross, or local groups in Orleans rather than throw all
of them back?
I don't know what the authorities views might be, obviously but it might
possible be helpful.
Any insights??


Not acceptable.

Not helpful, as they couldn't take stuff not USDA safe and feed it to
people. It's not like dropping some fish off at your neighbor's when
the neighbor's out of work or too ill to fish. It's a big operation
and they can't take any chances on raw food from unknown sources.

Money to buy mass quantities of food is the most help for feeding
disaster victims. Dry foods and canned goods are next most helpful.
Most food shelf places are responding with all they can send, so
giving money or canned goods or dry foods to your local food shelf to
help replenish the stock would be good.

Cyli
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Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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Chicago Paddling-Fishing September 3rd, 2005 09:11 AM

wcrbudox wrote:
: Wonder if it is plausable or workable for the various Fishing Clubs and
: Tournament trails to properly prepare and and ship their catches to the
: Salvation Army, Red Cross, or local groups in Orleans rather than throw all
: of them back?
: I don't know what the authorities views might be, obviously but it might
: possible be helpful.
: Any insights??

I got a email from a army fort in georgia asking for people and boats...
Sent back a reply to see if they were serious to get a flotilla of small
boats to help...

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Tex John September 4th, 2005 03:43 PM

It is too bad Red Cross is just money people...I bet there's a bunch of
cajuns in the Astrodome that would love a fresh fish meal versus more canned
tuna and beans.

But that would be like 20,000 lbs of fish just for one big meal at what I
guess is the biggest shelter at the moment.

That's a lot of fish!

John
in Houston


"Cyli" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 21:22:22 -0500, "wcrbudox" wrote:

Wonder if it is plausable or workable for the various Fishing Clubs and
Tournament trails to properly prepare and and ship their catches to the
Salvation Army, Red Cross, or local groups in Orleans rather than throw

all
of them back?
I don't know what the authorities views might be, obviously but it might
possible be helpful.
Any insights??


Not acceptable.

Not helpful, as they couldn't take stuff not USDA safe and feed it to
people. It's not like dropping some fish off at your neighbor's when
the neighbor's out of work or too ill to fish. It's a big operation
and they can't take any chances on raw food from unknown sources.

Money to buy mass quantities of food is the most help for feeding
disaster victims. Dry foods and canned goods are next most helpful.
Most food shelf places are responding with all they can send, so
giving money or canned goods or dry foods to your local food shelf to
help replenish the stock would be good.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)




Cyli September 5th, 2005 06:48 AM

On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 14:43:16 GMT, "Tex John"
wrote:

It is too bad Red Cross is just money people...I bet there's a bunch of
cajuns in the Astrodome that would love a fresh fish meal versus more canned
tuna and beans.

But that would be like 20,000 lbs of fish just for one big meal at what I
guess is the biggest shelter at the moment.

That's a lot of fish!

John
in Houston



And if a single person got ill afterward (and some would, because some
get ill anyway from other stuff and some would have allergies and lord
knows what), the Red Cross would be sued, the providers of the fish
would be sued, etc.. If the illness could be traced to improper
handling, it'd be worse. And a bunch of amateurs would be bound to
have a few in it who wouldn't handle the fish properly.

It has to be food that's passed all the government inspection
processes and been cleaned and kept in an approved manner. There are
reasons for all those rules. They were made to prevent illness and
death from bad food and bad processing.

You've got a nice thought there. Really, I'm not making fun of it.
Just trying to show you the reasons it can't work on a scale bigger
than one neighbor to another.

One reason I know is that my area was having a thinning of the herd
hunt in a State Park right near a Veteran's Administration Home. The
thinners wanted to donate the venison to the VA and the VA had to,
regretfully, turn down the offer, though many of their vets would have
loved a chance to eat venison again. They made a complete explanation
in response to the public outcry about the meat being wasted.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
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Tex John September 5th, 2005 05:20 PM


"Cyli" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 14:43:16 GMT, "Tex John"
wrote:

One reason I know is that my area was having a thinning of the herd
hunt in a State Park right near a Veteran's Administration Home. The
thinners wanted to donate the venison to the VA and the VA had to,
regretfully, turn down the offer, though many of their vets would have
loved a chance to eat venison again. They made a complete explanation
in response to the public outcry about the meat being wasted.


Really? Here in Texas hunters donate their deer to food pantries...



wcrbudox September 6th, 2005 05:14 AM

Refering to Government inspection of meat you may note that a lot of meat at
Wally World is sealed in bags and of course thanks to this Congress no
Country of origin label. Under NAFTA packaged meat like that is considered
processed food or some such and it is not subject to USDA approval because
of NAFTA.
We bought some of this chicken for the grill from a company in Arkansas that
turns out is processed and packaged in Mexico. My wife refused ot reclean it
or cook it or serve it. It was not safe to eat to say the lease. It was
dirty and had broken bones prior to packaging and congealed blood and black
in places from maybe being shocked or some strange malady and with pin
feathers still on it.
"Tex John" wrote in message
...

"Cyli" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 14:43:16 GMT, "Tex John"
wrote:

One reason I know is that my area was having a thinning of the herd
hunt in a State Park right near a Veteran's Administration Home. The
thinners wanted to donate the venison to the VA and the VA had to,
regretfully, turn down the offer, though many of their vets would have
loved a chance to eat venison again. They made a complete explanation
in response to the public outcry about the meat being wasted.


Really? Here in Texas hunters donate their deer to food pantries...





Cyli September 6th, 2005 08:22 AM

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 16:20:15 GMT, "Tex John"
wrote:


"Cyli" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 14:43:16 GMT, "Tex John"
wrote:

One reason I know is that my area was having a thinning of the herd
hunt in a State Park right near a Veteran's Administration Home. The
thinners wanted to donate the venison to the VA and the VA had to,
regretfully, turn down the offer, though many of their vets would have
loved a chance to eat venison again. They made a complete explanation
in response to the public outcry about the meat being wasted.


Really? Here in Texas hunters donate their deer to food pantries...


Cool. I wish that could have been done here.

Different states. Different decades, too, I'll bet. Did you take the
carcass directly to the VA or did it have to go through a licensed
butcher?





Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
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