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George Cleveland September 9th, 2005 04:35 PM

OT Another View of Katrina
 
What the hell...

An old friend sent me this link:


http://www.socialistworker.org/2005-...alHeroes.shtml


Obviously a biased source but on the other hand only a fraction of
their allegations have to be true to be pretty damaging.


g.c.

"... For Justice thunders condemnation... "


Ken Fortenberry September 9th, 2005 05:00 PM

George Cleveland wrote:
What the hell...

An old friend sent me this link:


http://www.socialistworker.org/2005-...alHeroes.shtml


Obviously a biased source but on the other hand only a fraction of
their allegations have to be true to be pretty damaging.


That first-hand report rings true, unlike the stories
of Dickie "On The Scene" Dean.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Tim J. September 9th, 2005 05:08 PM

Ken Fortenberry typed:
George Cleveland wrote:
What the hell...

An old friend sent me this link:

http://www.socialistworker.org/2005-...alHeroes.shtml

Obviously a biased source but on the other hand only a fraction of
their allegations have to be true to be pretty damaging.


That first-hand report rings true, unlike the stories
of Dickie "On The Scene" Dean.


Sorry, can't read that one until they change the title. Any article that
starts with "The real heroes and *sheroes* of New Orleans" has just got to
be full of crap. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj/



Ken Fortenberry September 9th, 2005 05:12 PM

Tim J. wrote:
Ken Fortenberry typed:
George Cleveland wrote:

What the hell...

An old friend sent me this link:

http://www.socialistworker.org/2005-...alHeroes.shtml

Obviously a biased source but on the other hand only a fraction of
their allegations have to be true to be pretty damaging.


That first-hand report rings true, unlike the stories
of Dickie "On The Scene" Dean.



Sorry, can't read that one until they change the title. Any article that
starts with "The real heroes and *sheroes* of New Orleans" has just got to
be full of crap. ;-)


Minds are like parachutes, Timmmaaaaay, they only work when open. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

George Cleveland September 9th, 2005 05:27 PM

On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:08:03 -0400, "Tim J."
wrote:

Ken Fortenberry typed:
George Cleveland wrote:
What the hell...

An old friend sent me this link:

http://www.socialistworker.org/2005-...alHeroes.shtml

Obviously a biased source but on the other hand only a fraction of
their allegations have to be true to be pretty damaging.


That first-hand report rings true, unlike the stories
of Dickie "On The Scene" Dean.


Sorry, can't read that one until they change the title. Any article that
starts with "The real heroes and *sheroes* of New Orleans" has just got to
be full of crap. ;-)

That *was* pretty lame.

On the other hand the writers of the piece weren't the same ones who
came up with the headline.

As a person who had dealings long ago with Socialist Workers I would
take anything they say with a large grain of salt. (Hell, I take
anything anyone says with a grain of salt. Its a wonder my blood
pressure isn't higher.) But... there are certain claims they made that
could be verified.

Were people prevented from fleeing the city by sheriff employees?
Was the operation these people set up distributing water etc. also
shutdown?

One of the posters here expressed the sentiment that he would have
evacuated even if he had to walk. These folks are claiming they tried
to do just that and they were prevented from doing so by the local
authorities. Seems to be a serious enough charge to be investigated.



g.c.

rw September 9th, 2005 05:32 PM

Tim J. wrote:

Sorry, can't read that one until they change the title. Any article that
starts with "The real heroes and *sheroes* of New Orleans" has just got to
be full of crap. ;-)


Maybe you'll enjoy this Tom Tomorrow cartoon:

http://tinyurl.com/dr4j7

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John Hightower September 9th, 2005 05:37 PM


"Ken Fortenberry" Minds are like parachutes, Timmmaaaaay, they only work
when open. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry


now that's funny!
jh



Tim J. September 9th, 2005 06:19 PM

John Hightower typed:
"Ken Fortenberry" Minds are like parachutes, Timmmaaaaay, they only
work when open. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry


now that's funny!


I'm glad someone else picked that up. Ken's probably busy listening to Rush,
so he may not see this until later this afternoon.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/



[email protected] September 9th, 2005 07:22 PM

Why do you hate Iran? G


[email protected] September 10th, 2005 03:23 PM

On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 10:35:01 -0500, George Cleveland
wrote:

What the hell...

An old friend sent me this link:


http://www.socialistworker.org/2005-...alHeroes.shtml


Obviously a biased source but on the other hand only a fraction of
their allegations have to be true to be pretty damaging.


g.c.

"... For Justice thunders condemnation... "


And here's another of a similar vein and source:

http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/berkowitz090905.html

And when you read it, if you read it, try to read it with a critical
eye, noting the similarities and discrepancies, but also noting things
such as the fact that these folks were mostly white, had money, at least
a couple of days food and water pre-storm (and certainly, the
opportunity to stock up pre-storm), etc. What kind of people have been
created when, if they don't get Government-provided food and water
within _3 days_ after such a disaster, it becomes "leaving people to
starve?" And no, I'm making no reference to color - again, apparently,
the people writing and being discussed in these pieces were mostly
well-off, even spoiled, white folks.

What strikes me is the writers of both of these pieces are just the type
of whiny, affluent white folks that supposed "liberals" are accusing of
not caring. I really don't recall much in either piece about what any
of these, er, brave survivors did to help their fellow man, only about
how hard it was on them. The socialist piece did, interestingly, talk
about how OTHERS around them helped their fellow man, all the while
bitching about, again, how hard it was on the author.

Bottom line - just more bull**** from people with agendas separate,
miles apart from, and really, in direct opposition to, those of all
colors and socio-economic levels who actually live here...and, of
course, have refuges in Iowa....

R


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