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Small Varivas hook source
I'm back tying very small midges and BWOs (for use if the waters ever
recede here in the Northeast !) and I'm running short of my favorite hooks - Varivas 988. These are wider gape than other hooks in same class. I need sizes 22 thru 28 (and even 30, 32 if I can find them). Daiichi 1140 are a decent alternative, but I can't locate any smaller than 22 or 24. Looking for online sources and all I can find are references to large, sal****er Varivas hooks and Varivas.com page doesn't seem to work. Anybody have ideas on sources ? Thanks Tony |
Small Varivas hook source
Tim J. wrote:
typed: I'm back tying very small midges and BWOs (for use if the waters ever recede here in the Northeast !) and I'm running short of my favorite hooks - Varivas 988. These are wider gape than other hooks in same class. I need sizes 22 thru 28 (and even 30, 32 if I can find them). Daiichi 1140 are a decent alternative, but I can't locate any smaller than 22 or 24. I can't even see #24 hooks, and find it hard to fathom #32. Hie thee to a San Juan 'Clave. You'd be amazed. I was. -- Ken Fortenberry |
Small Varivas hook source
I can't even see #24 hooks, and find it hard to fathom #32.
Me too. But George Leonard Herter, in his book on fly tying, says the smallest fly ever tied was a #40, Not a typo, #40. It was a royal coachman. vince |
Small Varivas hook source
wrote in message oups.com... I'm back tying very small midges and BWOs (for use if the waters ever recede here in the Northeast !) and I'm running short of my favorite hooks - Varivas 988. These are wider gape than other hooks in same class. I need sizes 22 thru 28 (and even 30, 32 if I can find them). Daiichi 1140 are a decent alternative, but I can't locate any smaller than 22 or 24. Looking for online sources and all I can find are references to large, sal****er Varivas hooks and Varivas.com page doesn't seem to work. Anybody have ideas on sources ? Thanks Tony Hi Tony, Try Tiemco. I usually don't fish flies smaller than size 24. Did okay the last few days on the the upper Colorado River with something called a disco midge, size 24. For the regular Roffians . . .and others . . . I recall doing the pattern for a swap. It should be on Stan's site. From the Tiemco website. TMC100 goes to size 28. TMC 100 BL goes to size 26. TMC 101 goes to size 26. TMC 501 goes to size 24. TMC 508 goes to size 26. TMC 518 goes to size 32. TMC 900BL goes to size 24. TMC 2487BL goes to size 24. TMC 206BL goes to size 24. There may be others. I've been using the 101, mostly, in a size 24. Curious about why you want anything smaller. For dinky sizes I want to use a straight eye hook. Google them and find out who stocks them. DaveMohnsen Denver ( I don't have anything smaller than size 32 hooks . . .uhh . .and I just look at 'em) Hmmm. . . also for the dinky hooks , look for the big eye versions of hooks. |
Small Varivas hook source
Dave: thanks. I will likely fall back on the TMC 518s -- nobody seems
to be carrying Varivas anymore. Too bad, the gape was a lot larger than the TMCs or other hooks in those small sizes. I always opt for the big eye hooks and bend the hook slightly to offset the point before tying on hooks smaller than 18 and I think the straight eye design helps keep gape clear ... I think this helps hookups, but no scientific evidence there.... A number of "bugs" I seine up appear smaller than sz 24 and the trout keep eating in the vicinity. I have read and am tying many of the patterns and colors of midges from Ed Koch and Don Holbrook's book - "Midge Magic". Recommend it for anybody trying to work the midge problem. I particularly like the look of the "Diamond midge". Thanks Tony Mortimer Dave Mohnsen wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I'm back tying very small midges and BWOs (for use if the waters ever recede here in the Northeast !) and I'm running short of my favorite hooks - Varivas 988. These are wider gape than other hooks in same class. I need sizes 22 thru 28 (and even 30, 32 if I can find them). Daiichi 1140 are a decent alternative, but I can't locate any smaller than 22 or 24. Looking for online sources and all I can find are references to large, sal****er Varivas hooks and Varivas.com page doesn't seem to work. Anybody have ideas on sources ? Thanks Tony Hi Tony, Try Tiemco. I usually don't fish flies smaller than size 24. Did okay the last few days on the the upper Colorado River with something called a disco midge, size 24. For the regular Roffians . . .and others . . . I recall doing the pattern for a swap. It should be on Stan's site. From the Tiemco website. TMC100 goes to size 28. TMC 100 BL goes to size 26. TMC 101 goes to size 26. TMC 501 goes to size 24. TMC 508 goes to size 26. TMC 518 goes to size 32. TMC 900BL goes to size 24. TMC 2487BL goes to size 24. TMC 206BL goes to size 24. There may be others. I've been using the 101, mostly, in a size 24. Curious about why you want anything smaller. For dinky sizes I want to use a straight eye hook. Google them and find out who stocks them. DaveMohnsen Denver ( I don't have anything smaller than size 32 hooks . . .uhh . .and I just look at 'em) Hmmm. . . also for the dinky hooks , look for the big eye versions of hooks. |
Small Varivas hook source
2 thoughts:
why not tie a low water style on whatever hook you have? That and use lots of Gink (or your favorite politically correct substitute). Second, Varivas was at the Denver trade show. They were always in business; just never got their distribution going, what with limited demand for 12X tippet and all. But they do appear to be back at places like Tulpehocken Creek Outfitters and the Little Lehigh Fly Shop. Maybe these folks can order hooks for you, even if they don't stock them. tl les |
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