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Wayne P November 3rd, 2005 12:06 AM

Fly Material Help Needed - 2nd attempt with pic link
 
Hi All,

I am trying to find stuff to reproduce a fly for my father. The fly in the
upper photo has a red plastic body between the tube/hair and the beads. Does
anyone know where I can find something like that? That fly is something like
35 years old. My dad trolls with thede behind a dodger and down-rigger for
salmon and lake trout in Lake Michigan.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/967...ing00082wk.jpg

I ordered a tube tying adapter for my vise this weekend to help me with the
tube part with the hair. I can find everything else, just no luck so far on
the red body. I also imagine polar bear hair which is what these were
originally tied with is hard to get if not illegal right? I will likely use
deer hair or some synthetic.

wayne



Mike Connor November 3rd, 2005 12:33 AM

Fly Material Help Needed - 2nd attempt with pic link
 

"Wayne P" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:bwcaf.150$ii.130@dukeread04...
Hi All,

I am trying to find stuff to reproduce a fly for my father. The fly in the
upper photo has a red plastic body between the tube/hair and the beads.
Does anyone know where I can find something like that? That fly is
something like 35 years old. My dad trolls with thede behind a dodger and
down-rigger for salmon and lake trout in Lake Michigan.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/967...ing00082wk.jpg

I ordered a tube tying adapter for my vise this weekend to help me with
the tube part with the hair. I can find everything else, just no luck so
far on the red body. I also imagine polar bear hair which is what these
were originally tied with is hard to get if not illegal right? I will
likely use deer hair or some synthetic.

wayne



You can get plastic beads in a whole hosts of colours and shapes at lots of
places, craft stores, etc etc. I assume the red bit is such an oval bead.
These beads are often used on sal****er traces for various purposes. Many
tackle shops will have them, but usually far too expensive. They are cheap
enough at craft stores though. Chainstores like Woolworth, Wal-mart etc
will also usually have a selection.

Polar bear is indeed difficult to acquire. There is a range of other things
you can use though;
http://www.bearlodgeangler.com/synthetic_hair.htm

http://flyfisherman.com/ftb/ssmaterials/index12.html

Natural materials, such as yak hair, and bucktail will both work on such
streamers. For hair with more intrinsic mobility, go for Icelandic sheep,
Arctic fox ( although you may have trouble getting this long enough), or
similar.

TL
MC






Mike Connor November 3rd, 2005 12:45 AM

Fly Material Help Needed - 2nd attempt with pic link
 
It seems that the beads etc on these flies are mainly being used as
"spacers". You can simply use another piece of tube, or any other beads for
this. Just a little tip, if you can get them "mother-of-pearl" or similar
"holographic" beads are often very effective on such things.

You can find practically any type of bead on the net. Here just a couple of
examples;
http://www.firemountaingems.com/plastic_beads.asp

http://www.thebeadery.com/beads.htm

http://www.china-accessories.com/bead/

http://www.dickblick.com/zz607/16/

http://www.creative-wholesale.com/Beads.htm

http://www.worthco.com/fish/fluorescent.html

TL
MC



Wayne P November 3rd, 2005 01:19 AM

Fly Material Help Needed - 2nd attempt with pic link
 
I am looking for the RED thing on the upper fly. It is tapered. Fatter at
one end than the other. It is a molded plastic thing.

wayne


"Mike Connor" wrote in message
...
It seems that the beads etc on these flies are mainly being used as
"spacers". You can simply use another piece of tube, or any other beads
for this. Just a little tip, if you can get them "mother-of-pearl" or
similar "holographic" beads are often very effective on such things.

You can find practically any type of bead on the net. Here just a couple
of examples;
http://www.firemountaingems.com/plastic_beads.asp

http://www.thebeadery.com/beads.htm

http://www.china-accessories.com/bead/

http://www.dickblick.com/zz607/16/

http://www.creative-wholesale.com/Beads.htm

http://www.worthco.com/fish/fluorescent.html

TL
MC




Mike Connor November 3rd, 2005 01:36 AM

Fly Material Help Needed - 2nd attempt with pic link
 

"Wayne P" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:dAdaf.161$ii.70@dukeread04...
I am looking for the RED thing on the upper fly. It is tapered. Fatter at
one end than the other. It is a molded plastic thing.

wayne


So I assumed. It is a molded plastic bead. These were often used for making
lure bodies etc. Try here;
http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/Items.a...s&disp=gallery

http://www.barlowstackle.com/acb/sho...ctGroup_ID=654

TL
MC



Wolfgang November 3rd, 2005 01:39 AM

Fly Material Help Needed - 2nd attempt with pic link
 

"Wayne P" wrote in message
news:dAdaf.161$ii.70@dukeread04...
I am looking for the RED thing on the upper fly. It is tapered. Fatter at
one end than the other. It is a molded plastic thing.



It's kinda hard to see a lot of detail on "the RED thing on the upper fly".
Fortunately, the world is full of molded plastic things, fatter at one end
than the other. Try Wal-Mart.

Wolfgang



Jim November 16th, 2005 03:09 AM

Fly Material Help Needed - 2nd attempt with pic link
 
Wayne, I have sent you an email with a picture. From the picture that
you posted it looks like it might be a bead that was used for making
spinners. I had bought some beads like that many years ago from Herters.
You might be able to find something similar from a company that sells
lure making materials.


Wayne P wrote:
Hi All,

I am trying to find stuff to reproduce a fly for my father. The fly in the
upper photo has a red plastic body between the tube/hair and the beads. Does
anyone know where I can find something like that? That fly is something like
35 years old. My dad trolls with thede behind a dodger and down-rigger for
salmon and lake trout in Lake Michigan.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/967...ing00082wk.jpg

I ordered a tube tying adapter for my vise this weekend to help me with the
tube part with the hair. I can find everything else, just no luck so far on
the red body. I also imagine polar bear hair which is what these were
originally tied with is hard to get if not illegal right? I will likely use
deer hair or some synthetic.

wayne




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