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No left turn November 17th, 2005 03:20 AM

Quick Corrode Hooks
 
Quick Corrode Hooks ?

What kind of alloy would make a good hook AND corrode in fresh water in about a week.
Think something like Sintered Cast Iron would work?
What metals corrode in a few days?

I love to have hooks like this for my plastic worms and my foam poppers. So what if the lure needs a bit more care...

Think about it.
Gut hook a fish or break off a trophy and rest assured it hasn't just received a death sentence.

Or How about hooks lost in those mixed use areas? Be nice to know that hooks lost near the boat dock wont be around to snag a kids foot the next week.

Any metallurgist geniuses out there?
Hey - What did Chrysler used to make those K cars out of ?

'Cause I don't believe most fish survive waiting for a standard hook to corrode, lets keep this thread on the topic of corrosion please.

Steve P
Dallas FlyFishers

riverman November 17th, 2005 07:34 AM

Quick Corrode Hooks
 
I've wondered about how long hooks stick around. My conclusion is 'not
much', because of all the fish I have caught in well-used areas and C&R
areas, very few have had hooks in their mouths from previous releases.
There was one notable 30" Northern Pike with a black DareDevil that I
still use, but I have never landed a trout with an OPH still in.
Possibly, this might be because leftover hooks tend to kill fish, but
if that were the case, where are all the fish who are foul-hooked in
nonlethal spots, like fins?

If there is mortality from injuries sustained while hooking them, a
corrosive hook won't change that. But if they survive the initial
event, the hook must get loosened and fall out over time. In fact, I
think I'd prefer that to having the shaft corrode away and the tip stay
in the body, as without the shaft to bump around, the tip would no
longer get loosened.

--riverman


Bob La Londe November 17th, 2005 01:46 PM

Quick Corrode Hooks
 

"riverman" wrote in message
oups.com...
I've wondered about how long hooks stick around. My conclusion is 'not
much', because of all the fish I have caught in well-used areas and C&R
areas, very few have had hooks in their mouths from previous releases.
There was one notable 30" Northern Pike with a black DareDevil that I
still use, but I have never landed a trout with an OPH still in.
Possibly, this might be because leftover hooks tend to kill fish, but
if that were the case, where are all the fish who are foul-hooked in
nonlethal spots, like fins?

If there is mortality from injuries sustained while hooking them, a
corrosive hook won't change that. But if they survive the initial
event, the hook must get loosened and fall out over time. In fact, I
think I'd prefer that to having the shaft corrode away and the tip stay
in the body, as without the shaft to bump around, the tip would no
longer get loosened.

--riverman


I have caught bass with hooks, baits, etc stuck in them.

--
Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



Conan The Librarian November 17th, 2005 01:51 PM

Quick Corrode Hooks
 
No left turn wrote:

Think about it.
Gut hook a fish or break off a trophy and rest assured
it hasn't just received a death sentence.


If the idea of gut hooking fish bothers you, don't use bait. If the
fish breaks off, I seriously doubt it's a death sentence. I've caught
fish with hooks still embedded in their jaws, and I'll bet most ROFFians
have too. Some ROFFians have even told of catching a fish with their
own fly embedded in its jaw. (I.e., the fish broke off yet continued to
feed and took a fly a second time.)

'Cause I don't believe most fish survive waiting for a standard
hook to corrode, lets keep this thread on the topic of corrosion
please.


Sorry I couldn't help there. Since I don't believe that most fish
die waiting for a standard hook to corrode, I think you have a solution
looking for a problem.

HTH.


Chuck Vance

Peter A. Collin November 17th, 2005 02:54 PM

Quick Corrode Hooks
 
You could use whatever metal they made Gremlins from.

George Adams November 17th, 2005 04:53 PM

Quick Corrode Hooks
 
I agree with Chuck that your looking for a problem to match a solution,
but if you're all that concerned, why not take a stone and/or some
sandpaper and remove the finish from whatever hooks you are using.


Conan The Librarian November 17th, 2005 05:26 PM

Quick Corrode Hooks
 
George Adams wrote:

I agree with Chuck that your looking for a problem to match a solution,
but if you're all that concerned, why not take a stone and/or some
sandpaper and remove the finish from whatever hooks you are using.


Hey, that's a great idea! But to really do it right, we need to
take it a couple of steps further: Remove all the finish from the hooks
and set them in a bucket of water. Remove them from the water, but
don't dry them out. Just set them out in the elements for a while.
Then put them in an air-tight flybox (can't have any moisture escaping)
until you're ready to fish with them. (For best results, I'd recommend
leaving them for a year or two in this condition.)

Then when you actually hook something, given their rusted condition,
they'll likely break, and not only will the fish get away, but what's
left of the hook should be well-on-the-way to total disintegration.

Of course we'd have to come up with a name for them. Hmmm ... Slo
Corrode ... Pre Corrode ... Tru Corrode?


Chuck Vance (naw, you don't have to thank me, I live for this stuff)



[email protected] November 17th, 2005 06:41 PM

Quick Corrode Hooks
 
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:26:32 -0600, Conan The Librarian
wrote:

the-way to total disintegration.


Wait for it...wait for it...

Of course we'd have to come up with a name for them. Hmmm ... Slo
Corrode ... Pre Corrode ... Tru Corrode?

"Chuck's ****ed-Up Hookers"

Yep, that'd do it...

Frank Reid November 17th, 2005 08:20 PM

Quick Corrode Hooks
 
I agree with Chuck that your looking for a problem to match a solution,
but if you're all that concerned, why not take a stone and/or some
sandpaper and remove the finish from whatever hooks you are using.


Hey, that's a great idea! But to really do it right, we need to take
it a couple of steps further: Remove all the finish from the hooks and
set them in a bucket of water. Remove them from the water, but don't dry
them out. Just set them out in the elements for a while. Then put them in
an air-tight flybox (can't have any moisture escaping) until you're ready
to fish with them. (For best results, I'd recommend leaving them for a
year or two in this condition.)

Then when you actually hook something, given their rusted condition,
they'll likely break, and not only will the fish get away, but what's left
of the hook should be well-on-the-way to total disintegration.

Of course we'd have to come up with a name for them. Hmmm ... Slo
Corrode ... Pre Corrode ... Tru Corrode?


Save yourself the trouble and have a certain North Cakalaky fly shop owner
tie one one of his special flies for you. You'll never have to worry about
leaving the fly in a fish.

--
Frank Reid
Euthanize to respond



Dave LaCourse November 17th, 2005 11:01 PM

Quick Corrode Hooks
 
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:20:59 -0600, "No left turn"
wrote:

'Cause I don't believe most fish survive waiting for a standard hook =
to corrode, lets keep this thread on the topic of corrosion =
please.


First, turn off your html. It's a pia.

Most (all?) fresh water hooks will eventually completely erode in
fresh water. Your fears are unfounded.

Dave




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