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go-bassn April 17th, 2004 12:24 AM

OK Hubie, You're in the Hotseat :-)
 
"People think that because the line is not clear, that fish can see it and
thus it will result in less bites. I have never found this to be a
problem..." - Steve Huber

You know I love ya babe, but how on Heaven's Earth would you know if it WAS
a problem?

Are you sure you get as many bites as you would if you were using a less
visable string?

I, for one, think you aren't ;-)

Warren
--
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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers April 17th, 2004 01:03 PM

OK Hubie, You're in the Hotseat :-)
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
"People think that because the line is not clear, that fish can see it and
thus it will result in less bites. I have never found this to be a
problem..." - Steve Huber

You know I love ya babe, but how on Heaven's Earth would you know if it

WAS
a problem?

Are you sure you get as many bites as you would if you were using a less
visable string?

I, for one, think you aren't ;-)


Quite simple. I've fished with Gil, clients and other people using either
monofilament lines or leaders of flourocarbon or mono, while I've fished the
exact same water using PowerPro. My catch ratio is the same or better using
the straight superline as those using less visible products.

THAT's what I base my opinion on.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



alwayfishking April 17th, 2004 03:29 PM

OK Hubie, You're in the Hotseat :-)
 
I wouldn't know either way, but has anyone used the Yozuri hybrid in smoke
color. I spooled up with it yesterday gonna try it out today, lake is clear,
I've used the green but not the smoke, I imagine it's less visible but until
I get a talking fish I don't know
"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
"People think that because the line is not clear, that fish can see it

and
thus it will result in less bites. I have never found this to be a
problem..." - Steve Huber

You know I love ya babe, but how on Heaven's Earth would you know if it

WAS
a problem?

Are you sure you get as many bites as you would if you were using a less
visable string?

I, for one, think you aren't ;-)


Quite simple. I've fished with Gil, clients and other people using either
monofilament lines or leaders of flourocarbon or mono, while I've fished

the
exact same water using PowerPro. My catch ratio is the same or better

using
the straight superline as those using less visible products.

THAT's what I base my opinion on.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com





Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers April 17th, 2004 03:52 PM

OK Hubie, You're in the Hotseat :-)
 

"alwayfishking" wrote in message
...
I wouldn't know either way, but has anyone used the Yozuri hybrid in smoke
color. I spooled up with it yesterday gonna try it out today, lake is

clear,
I've used the green but not the smoke, I imagine it's less visible but

until
I get a talking fish I don't know


I too haven't had any feedback from a talking fish, so visibility as it
relates to a fish is an unknown. But I have used it in the past as an
experiment and found (for a mono type line) it to be tough, relatively low
stretch and fairly decent line.

It's probably what I would buy if I bought non-superlines.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



alwayfishking April 17th, 2004 07:05 PM

OK Hubie, You're in the Hotseat :-)
 
It's a nice mix between Floro and nylon
"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"alwayfishking" wrote in message
...
I wouldn't know either way, but has anyone used the Yozuri hybrid in

smoke
color. I spooled up with it yesterday gonna try it out today, lake is

clear,
I've used the green but not the smoke, I imagine it's less visible but

until
I get a talking fish I don't know


I too haven't had any feedback from a talking fish, so visibility as it
relates to a fish is an unknown. But I have used it in the past as an
experiment and found (for a mono type line) it to be tough, relatively low
stretch and fairly decent line.

It's probably what I would buy if I bought non-superlines.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com





Steve & Chris Clark April 17th, 2004 11:03 PM

OK Hubie, You're in the Hotseat :-)
 
I've got some input on this one. Fireline, IMO, does have a sliding ratio
as the line becomes white. Less boated fish. I have tried using two
fireline rigged rods. When I do the end for end trade, take the line off and
turn it around and respool again. Using one that is white (old) and one
that is black (new) with the same colored tube, every other cast to the same
spot and found the black line does produce a lot more fish and bites. I
always blacken the last twenty feet of fireline. PPro too. Nothing
scientific but there is a significant difference. In my lake you just can't
use mono if you are in the weeds or near the bottom. My lake has about a
twenty foot visibility depth.
Unlessen you're not out there to get fish in the boat that is ;-)
--
Stony

"alwayfishking" wrote in message
...
I wouldn't know either way, but has anyone used the Yozuri hybrid in smoke
color. I spooled up with it yesterday gonna try it out today, lake is

clear,
I've used the green but not the smoke, I imagine it's less visible but

until
I get a talking fish I don't know
"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...
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Craig Baugher April 17th, 2004 11:25 PM

OK Hubie, You're in the Hotseat :-)
 
Let's all be real. Bass may not see fluorocarbon line like they can mono or
braids, but they do know something is attached to the lure because of their
lateral line.

I never gave it that much thought until I was watching the FLW. I learned
one of those things I keep telling people they can learn if they just pay
attention. Rick Clunn talked briefly about customizing lures, where he
showed a crankbait he filed groves into. They went into a whole scientific
explanation of how a bass can 100% visualize a lure with its lateral line
even before it can see it. They pointed out that they can even visualize
the difference in depth of each of the filed groves.

With that, it got me to thinking. If they can visualize even the slightest
depth changes of the groves filed on a lure, they can surely visualize the
line attached regardless of color, size, or its light refractive properties.
So while my fluorocarbon may be harder for them to see, the can sense it.

Which now also explains why a bass strikes a lure more often on the fall or
after striking an object. It must momentarily break up the image of the
line while giving the lure the appearance of injured prey.

--
Craig Baugher
Be Confident, Focused, but most of all Have FUN!



John Kerr April 17th, 2004 11:49 PM

OK Hubie, You're in the Hotseat :-)
 
Wow! I must be really out of touch with the "modern" technology of bass
fishing. I have fished with mono all my life, and I catch bass. Not
bragging, but I think I do pretty good overall using the "old"
equiptment, and my learned techniques. I have tried different inovations
from time to time, but have noticed lttle difference in my
production....but there are so many variables, it would be hard to say
one way or the other for sure. All I know is that I am comfortable with
what got me there...."Dance with the one that brung ya!".
Now the "kid" would tell ya a different story...he is always looking for
an added edge, and he certainly out fishes me grin.
My opinion....90% technique...10% equiptment.
JK



Craig Baugher April 18th, 2004 04:20 AM

OK Hubie, You're in the Hotseat :-)
 
I am, without a doubt, a high tech angler. My equipment surely has helped
me make up for my lack of experience. I am 45, and I got into bass fishing,
on a serious level, late into the game (1997). So while John only relies on
his equipment for 10% of his success, it is probably closer to 40% to 45%
with me.


--
Craig Baugher
Be Confident, Focused, but most of all Have FUN!



Dwayne E. Cooper April 23rd, 2004 08:25 AM

OK Hubie, You're in the Hotseat :-)
 
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 22:25:23 GMT, "Craig Baugher"
wrote:

They went into a whole scientific
explanation of how a bass can 100% visualize a lure with its lateral line
even before it can see it. They pointed out that they can even visualize
the difference in depth of each of the filed groves.

With that, it got me to thinking. If they can visualize even the slightest
depth changes of the groves filed on a lure, they can surely visualize the
line attached regardless of color, size, or its light refractive properties.
So while my fluorocarbon may be harder for them to see, the can sense it.


And, IMO, ya can take it one step further all the way up to the
action of the rod...

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