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Bob La Londe April 19th, 2004 04:38 PM

The Stick Worm Phenomenon
 
We really can't call them Senkos anymore. Its a Yamamoto trade name. While
Gary Yamamoto started something with these and deserves all the credit for
this new bait, many other manufacturers have their own version that produce
nice sizes and quantities of fish. It is a disservice to Yamamoto and Yum,
Swee****er, Mesa Tackle, and others to call them all Senkos.

http://tinyurl.com/yv8vz

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Ken Blevins April 19th, 2004 05:08 PM

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"knock offs "


and I use several different brands
Ken
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
We really can't call them Senkos anymore. Its a Yamamoto trade name.

While
Gary Yamamoto started something with these and deserves all the credit for
this new bait, many other manufacturers have their own version that

produce
nice sizes and quantities of fish. It is a disservice to Yamamoto and

Yum,
Swee****er, Mesa Tackle, and others to call them all Senkos.

http://tinyurl.com/yv8vz

What do you think we should call them?

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Bob La Londe April 19th, 2004 05:36 PM

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"Ken Blevins" wrote in message
...
"knock offs "


Maybe, but a grub is a grub.
A tube is a tube.
An augertail is an augertail.

Regardless of the manufacturer those baits have a generic name. If I said I
was fishing with a watermelon red flake "knock off" nobody would know what
it was.


and I use several different brands
Ken
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
We really can't call them Senkos anymore. Its a Yamamoto trade name.

While
Gary Yamamoto started something with these and deserves all the credit

for
this new bait, many other manufacturers have their own version that

produce
nice sizes and quantities of fish. It is a disservice to Yamamoto and

Yum,
Swee****er, Mesa Tackle, and others to call them all Senkos.

http://tinyurl.com/yv8vz

What do you think we should call them?

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J Buck April 19th, 2004 05:49 PM

The Stick Worm Phenomenon
 
knock offs

Happens all the time...a few examples SkiDoo=snowmobile Xerox=copier
Winchester=lever action etc. etc.
ymmv of course


Doc \(The Tin Boat King\) April 19th, 2004 06:21 PM

The Stick Worm Phenomenon
 
Stick Baits Doc
=======================

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message ...
We really can't call them Senkos anymore. Its a Yamamoto trade name. While
Gary Yamamoto started something with these and deserves all the credit for
this new bait, many other manufacturers have their own version that produce
nice sizes and quantities of fish. It is a disservice to Yamamoto and Yum,
Swee****er, Mesa Tackle, and others to call them all Senkos.

http://tinyurl.com/yv8vz

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Todd Copeland April 19th, 2004 06:29 PM

The Stick Worm Phenomenon
 
Kleenex, Aspirin....

"J Buck" wrote in message
...
knock offs

Happens all the time...a few examples SkiDoo=snowmobile Xerox=copier
Winchester=lever action etc. etc.
ymmv of course




Bob Rickard April 19th, 2004 07:15 PM

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As a manufacturer, I can assure you that Gary Yamamoto absolutely loves
having people refer to all Senko-type baits as Senko's! When a
manufacturer's name for a product type, a name usually trademarked at great
expense, becomes used and thought of that often, it assures continued strong
sales as long as the original quality remains. I would love nothing more
than to see anglers starting to refer to all spinnerbaits as " 'Weapons."
Keep using the Senko name here; Gary earned it.

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
We really can't call them Senkos anymore. Its a Yamamoto trade name.

While
Gary Yamamoto started something with these and deserves all the credit for
this new bait, many other manufacturers have their own version that

produce
nice sizes and quantities of fish. It is a disservice to Yamamoto and

Yum,
Swee****er, Mesa Tackle, and others to call them all Senkos.

http://tinyurl.com/yv8vz

What do you think we should call them?

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Todd Copeland April 19th, 2004 09:32 PM

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Except when you allow the public to use your trademark name your running a
_big_ risk of not being able to enforce the trademark any longer. As I
mentioned in my post, Kleenex and Aspirin come to mind. This is why
companies such as Mattel and McDonalds send out cease and desisted letters
for everything under the sun. Once they stop enforcing their trademarks,
they can be lost.

"Bob Rickard" wrote in message
om...
As a manufacturer, I can assure you that Gary Yamamoto absolutely loves
having people refer to all Senko-type baits as Senko's! When a
manufacturer's name for a product type, a name usually trademarked at

great
expense, becomes used and thought of that often, it assures continued

strong
sales as long as the original quality remains. I would love nothing more
than to see anglers starting to refer to all spinnerbaits as " 'Weapons."
Keep using the Senko name here; Gary earned it.




steve burison April 19th, 2004 09:56 PM

The Stick Worm Phenomenon
 
Bob
It is also true that a
Kleenex is a Kleenex. Brand names do describe a category, especially when
they are as successful as Senko's

Just a thought






"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"Ken Blevins" wrote in message
...
"knock offs "


Maybe, but a grub is a grub.
A tube is a tube.
An augertail is an augertail.

Regardless of the manufacturer those baits have a generic name. If I said

I
was fishing with a watermelon red flake "knock off" nobody would know what
it was.


and I use several different brands
Ken
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
We really can't call them Senkos anymore. Its a Yamamoto trade name.

While
Gary Yamamoto started something with these and deserves all the credit

for
this new bait, many other manufacturers have their own version that

produce
nice sizes and quantities of fish. It is a disservice to Yamamoto and

Yum,
Swee****er, Mesa Tackle, and others to call them all Senkos.

http://tinyurl.com/yv8vz

What do you think we should call them?

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Fishing Link Index
www.YumaBassMan.com

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at
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RichZ April 19th, 2004 11:13 PM

The Stick Worm Phenomenon
 
J wrote:
Winchester=lever action


Actually, when I hear Winchester, I think 'hard drive'. Maybe I'm showing
my age, but the very first hard drive that recorded on both sides of the
disk was made by IBM and was a 60 meg unit. 30 megs on each side. IBM named
it the 30-30, which quickly became the Winchester in tech support circles.


Be that as it may, Kimberly Clark spends a fortune protecting the Kleenex
trademark, as does CocaCola with 'Coke', Polaroid with their company name,
etc., etc.

Sveral brand names have legally moved into the common domain because the
copyright owners did not do enough to enforce their rights. Aspirin and
Linoleum are prime examples. General Motors spent more money policing the
rights to their trademark Frigidaire name in the 50s than they made selling
refrigerators.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing



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