World's Fish Are In Hot Water
 

Roger Coppock wrote:
I'm glad that both of my children have had
the experience of catching a trout in a cold
mountain stream, because global warming
may heat up the waters so that they are the
last generation who could do so.

-.-. --.- Roger

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WWF: World's Fish Are In Hot Water
GENEVA, Nov. 18, 2005

By Sam Cage
©MMV The Associated Press
(AP) Higher water temperatures are threatening the world's fish by
reducing food stocks and stunting growth, which could cause them to
reproduce less, the World Wildlife Fund said Friday.

Global warming is causing the world's rivers, lakes and oceans to heat
up and some temperate fish like salmon, catfish and sturgeon cannot
spawn at all if winter temperatures do not drop below a certain level,
according to the Gland, Switzerland-based conservation group.

"The balance is set to tip, as climate change continues the pressure on
fish populations already strained by overfishing, pollution and habitat
loss," said Katherine Short, a WWF fisheries expert. "We must act to
protect fish, both marine and freshwater. They are one of our most
valuable biological, nutritional and economic assets."

[ . . . ]

The rest:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...e1055989.shtml


blah, blah, blah.

"Act to protect our fish"??? How?? Reverse the natural climate changes
we're experiencing? Throw fish pellets into the water? Eliminate
natural predators?

What part of "the earth's climate is changing because we're coming out
of an ice age" is hard to understand?

They fail to discuss the root cause of global warming. That's because
they want everyone to think its from greenhouse gasses caused by man.
This is absurd since man contributes very little to the total amount of
greenhouse gasses. Many groups that blame man are quick to qualify
their statements with something like "Factoring out volcanos and other
natural events" when these are the MAJOR source of these gasses.

Volcanic eruption in the last 100 years or so have put out many times
what man has since he wsa been on earth. Forest fires contribute
massive amounts of these gasses. These are natural events unless you
think man can just stop volcanos from erupting by passing a law against
that kind of event.

And there is significant evidence to point to the FACT that global
warming is what happens naturally when we're coming out of an ice age.

World's Fish Are In Hot Water
 

"Cal Vanize" wrote in message
...


...there is significant evidence to point to the FACT that global warming
is what happens naturally when we're coming out of an ice age.

Gosh......ain't science wonderful? :)

Wolfgang
who never in an eon......maybe even an era or an epoch......would have
guessed at a connection between warming and the end of an ice age.

World's Fish Are In Hot Water
 

Volcanic eruption in the last 100 years or so have put out many times
what man has since he wsa been on earth. Forest fires contribute
massive amounts of these gasses. These are natural events unless you
think man can just stop volcanos from erupting by passing a law against
that kind of event.



Bull****. Cite your references. Here's mine:
http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volc...e_effects.html

"Volcanic eruptions can enhance global warming by adding CO2 to the
atmosphere. However, a far greater amount of CO2 is contributed to the
atmosphere by human activities each year than by volcanic eruptions.
Volcanoes contribute about 110 million tons/year, whereas other sources
contribute about 10 billion tons/year."

--riverman

World's Fish Are In Hot Water
 

riverman wrote:

Volcanic eruption in the last 100 years or so have put out many times
what man has since he wsa been on earth. Forest fires contribute
massive amounts of these gasses. These are natural events unless you
think man can just stop volcanos from erupting by passing a law against
that kind of event.




Bull****. Cite your references. Here's mine:
http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volc...e_effects.html

"Volcanic eruptions can enhance global warming by adding CO2 to the
atmosphere. However, a far greater amount of CO2 is contributed to the
atmosphere by human activities each year than by volcanic eruptions.
Volcanoes contribute about 110 million tons/year, whereas other sources
contribute about 10 billion tons/year."

--riverman

Yep, another report written by those on the payroll of the environmental
movement.

I guess you're so naive as to believe that the environmentalist's money
would support an unbiased report or one that ould contradict their
alarmist position.

Go find independent studies so that you can clear your head of all that
propaganda meant to get you to contribute your money to line the pockets
of the environmental lobbyists.

World's Fish Are In Hot Water
 

On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:52:00 -0600, Cal Vanize
wrote:

riverman wrote:

Volcanic eruption in the last 100 years or so have put out many times
what man has since he wsa been on earth. Forest fires contribute
massive amounts of these gasses. These are natural events unless you
think man can just stop volcanos from erupting by passing a law against
that kind of event.




Bull****. Cite your references. Here's mine:
http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volc...e_effects.html

"Volcanic eruptions can enhance global warming by adding CO2 to the
atmosphere. However, a far greater amount of CO2 is contributed to the
atmosphere by human activities each year than by volcanic eruptions.
Volcanoes contribute about 110 million tons/year, whereas other sources
contribute about 10 billion tons/year."

--riverman

Yep, another report written by those on the payroll of the environmental
movement.

I guess you're so naive as to believe that the environmentalist's money
would support an unbiased report or one that ould contradict their
alarmist position.

Go find independent studies so that you can clear your head of all that
propaganda meant to get you to contribute your money to line the pockets
of the environmental lobbyists.



So you're saying that the Geology department of San Diego State is a
biased source. What source do you suggest? Rush Limbo?


g.c.

World's Fish Are In Hot Water
 

Cal Vanize wrote:
riverman wrote:

Volcanic eruption in the last 100 years or so have put out many times
what man has since he wsa been on earth. Forest fires contribute
massive amounts of these gasses. These are natural events unless you
think man can just stop volcanos from erupting by passing a law against
that kind of event.




Bull****. Cite your references. Here's mine:
http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volc...e_effects.html

"Volcanic eruptions can enhance global warming by adding CO2 to the
atmosphere. However, a far greater amount of CO2 is contributed to the
atmosphere by human activities each year than by volcanic eruptions.
Volcanoes contribute about 110 million tons/year, whereas other sources
contribute about 10 billion tons/year."

--riverman

Yep, another report written by those on the payroll of the environmental
movement.

I guess you're so naive as to believe that the environmentalist's money
would support an unbiased report or one that ould contradict their
alarmist position.

Go find independent studies so that you can clear your head of all that
propaganda meant to get you to contribute your money to line the pockets
of the environmental lobbyists.

Again, cite YOUR sources. I can provide references from .gov sources,
research groups, textbooks, professional journals (peer edited) and
direct testimonials from research scientists all attesting that
human-contributed greenhouse gases exceed volcanic greenhouse gas
emissions. I'm very curious what you would deem as an "unbiased
report". I'd love to see your research data.

--riverman

World's Fish Are In Hot Water
 

George Cleveland wrote:

On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 18:52:00 -0600, Cal Vanize
wrote:


riverman wrote:


Volcanic eruption in the last 100 years or so have put out many times
what man has since he wsa been on earth. Forest fires contribute
massive amounts of these gasses. These are natural events unless you
think man can just stop volcanos from erupting by passing a law against
that kind of event.




Bull****. Cite your references. Here's mine:
http://www.geology.sdsu.edu/how_volc...e_effects.html

"Volcanic eruptions can enhance global warming by adding CO2 to the
atmosphere. However, a far greater amount of CO2 is contributed to the
atmosphere by human activities each year than by volcanic eruptions.
Volcanoes contribute about 110 million tons/year, whereas other sources
contribute about 10 billion tons/year."

--riverman

Yep, another report written by those on the payroll of the environmental
movement.

I guess you're so naive as to believe that the environmentalist's money
would support an unbiased report or one that ould contradict their
alarmist position.

Go find independent studies so that you can clear your head of all that
propaganda meant to get you to contribute your money to line the pockets
of the environmental lobbyists.




So you're saying that the Geology department of San Diego State is a
biased source. What source do you suggest? Rush Limbo?




Their report was molded to fit the views of the organisation funding the
study.

World's Fish Are In Hot Water
 

"Cal Vanize" wrote in message
...


George Cleveland wrote:

So you're saying that the Geology department of San Diego State is a
biased source. What source do you suggest? Rush Limbo?




Their report was molded to fit the views of the organisation funding the
study.

Idiot.

Wolfgang

World's Fish Are In Hot Water
 

Wolfgang wrote:

"Cal Vanize" wrote in message
...


George Cleveland wrote:


So you're saying that the Geology department of San Diego State is a
biased source. What source do you suggest? Rush Limbo?




Their report was molded to fit the views of the organisation funding the
study.


Idiot.

Wolfgang

Kinda have a little trouble thinking this through, aren't you.

So lets say that man creates four time the emissions of volcanoes.
Man's been doing this for about 150 years gradually increasing their
output. That would mean that it would take volcanoes 600 years to equal
what man has put out. But volcanoes have been around a lot longer than
that.

And lets not consider natural forest fires or other natural sources.

And that fact that is continually overlooked is that we're coming out of
an ice age. The earth's climate is SUPPPOSED to be warming.

Do the math and try using science instead of the views of those alarmist
who take your contrbutions to line their pockets.

So was your term "idiot" an admission of your own personal shortcomings?
Or have you been so drained of logic by the environmental alarmists as
to miss the point completely?

World's Fish Are In Hot Water
 

"Cal Vanize" wrote in message
...


Wolfgang wrote:

"Cal Vanize" wrote in message
...


George Cleveland wrote:


So you're saying that the Geology department of San Diego State is a
biased source. What source do you suggest? Rush Limbo?




Their report was molded to fit the views of the organisation funding the
study.


Idiot.

Wolfgang

Kinda have a little trouble thinking this through, aren't you.

So lets say that man creates four time the emissions of volcanoes. Man's
been doing this for about 150 years gradually increasing their output.
That would mean that it would take volcanoes 600 years to equal what man
has put out. But volcanoes have been around a lot longer than that.

And lets not consider natural forest fires or other natural sources.

And that fact that is continually overlooked is that we're coming out of
an ice age. The earth's climate is SUPPPOSED to be warming.

Do the math and try using science instead of the views of those alarmist
who take your contrbutions to line their pockets.

So was your term "idiot" an admission of your own personal shortcomings?
Or have you been so drained of logic by the environmental alarmists as to
miss the point completely?

Moron.

Wolfgang