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[email protected] February 4th, 2006 04:51 AM

Hey Wolfie...
 
Don't know if you know anyone from Frederick, WS or anyone associated
with "The Butterknife Group," but if you do, give 'em a big ol' "thank
you!" Some of yer fellow cheeseheads are down here rebuilding houses,
and managed to get one done and the folks back home in 17 days - good on
'em.

TC,
R

Frank Church February 4th, 2006 11:20 AM

Hey Wolfie...
 
wrote in news:vlb8u15vr9tci1d9r1ifu9arj7q4ucr6pa@
4ax.com:

Don't know if you know anyone from Frederick, WS or anyone associated
with "The Butterknife Group," but if you do, give 'em a big ol' "thank
you!" Some of yer fellow cheeseheads are down here rebuilding houses,
and managed to get one done and the folks back home in 17 days - good on
'em.


....got my very own look at some of the mess Katrina left. I was still north
of Biloxi by a least 25 miles when I began to see roofing torn off, twisted
into heaps, buildings were sporting big tarps where roofs used to be and
just a general overall mess. Arriving at the dealer in Biloxi, I could see
where the wind/water had piled up debris against fences and anything that
would stand up to the storm. Dealer said his RV lot had about 6 feet of
water covering it. I forgot to ask him how they saved the RV's from getting
drowned. They did a good job of cleaning up the mess however, no evidence
left on his property.

Frank Sr.

[email protected] February 4th, 2006 12:27 PM

Hey Wolfie...
 
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:51:37 -0600, wrote:

Don't know if you know anyone from Frederick, WS or anyone associated
with "The Butterknife Group," but if you do, give 'em a big ol' "thank
you!" Some of yer fellow cheeseheads are down here rebuilding houses,
and managed to get one done and the folks back home in 17 days - good on
'em.

TC,
R


Found a link to the site on the City of Biloxi website:

http://www.butterknifehouse.com

[email protected] February 4th, 2006 12:56 PM

Hey Wolfie...
 
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 11:20:55 GMT, Frank Church
wrote:

wrote in news:vlb8u15vr9tci1d9r1ifu9arj7q4ucr6pa@
4ax.com:

Don't know if you know anyone from Frederick, WS or anyone associated
with "The Butterknife Group," but if you do, give 'em a big ol' "thank
you!" Some of yer fellow cheeseheads are down here rebuilding houses,
and managed to get one done and the folks back home in 17 days - good on
'em.


...got my very own look at some of the mess Katrina left. I was still north
of Biloxi by a least 25 miles when I began to see roofing torn off, twisted
into heaps, buildings were sporting big tarps where roofs used to be and
just a general overall mess. Arriving at the dealer in Biloxi, I could see
where the wind/water had piled up debris against fences and anything that
would stand up to the storm. Dealer said his RV lot had about 6 feet of
water covering it. I forgot to ask him how they saved the RV's from getting
drowned. They did a good job of cleaning up the mess however, no evidence
left on his property.

Frank Sr.


If they moved them even a few blocks, that might have done it. People
don't realize, even those who have lived here all their lives, just how
much variation there is in elevation. For example, over in Hancock
county (Pass Christian, Bay St. Louis, Waveland, etc.), the water was as
high as 32 feet at the shoreline, but there are a fair number of houses
within 1-2 miles that got no water. If you walk out of my mother's
front door, you can see in one direction a house that had water _in the
attic_, in another direction a house where two people drowned _in the
attic_, and in another, one that didn't even have wet floors.

OTOH, the RVs you saw might have been post-Katrina inventory. From what
I've heard, vehicle manufacturers were VERY swift in rounding up
storm-damaged dealer inventories - GM sent down mobile crushers and
crushed flooded cars right at the dealership. But I also heard they
made a real effort to get replacements here equally quickly.

What's really strange for some to understand is the number of boats
damaged and destroyed by the storm, but when you realize that it put
God-knows-how-many-ton casino barges on or north of US90, it shows that
the ability to float ain't necessarily a defense...

TC,
R

Dave LaCourse February 4th, 2006 01:50 PM

Hey Wolfie...
 
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 06:56:19 -0600, wrote:

If they moved them even a few blocks, that might have done it. People
don't realize, even those who have lived here all their lives, just how
much variation there is in elevation. For example, over in Hancock
county (Pass Christian, Bay St. Louis, Waveland, etc.), the water was as
high as 32 feet at the shoreline, but there are a fair number of houses
within 1-2 miles that got no water. If you walk out of my mother's
front door, you can see in one direction a house that had water _in the
attic_, in another direction a house where two people drowned _in the
attic_, and in another, one that didn't even have wet floors.


How very true. It was amazing to see homes within 3/4 mile from the
shore with NO water damage, yet homes just across the street totally
destroyed. The Rt 603 underpass at I-10, EIGHT miles from the shore
had a surge of water 30 feet high.

Frank, if you had gone just a few more miles west on I-10 to the
Waveland area, you would see how much damage they suffered. Railroad
tracks pulled up and twisted like so many pretzels, homes completely
torn from their foundations and washed inland. Pine trees that
weren't snapped in two are now dead because of the salt water. Boats
sitting on top of trees; trees sitting on top of boats. But, inspite
of the total destruction of everything they owned, most folks down
there were (are) in high spirits and rebuilding.

Three friends are heading back down on Monday to Waveland to continue
rebuilding.







[email protected] February 4th, 2006 02:53 PM

Hey Wolfie...
 
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 08:50:48 -0500, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 06:56:19 -0600, wrote:

If they moved them even a few blocks, that might have done it. People
don't realize, even those who have lived here all their lives, just how
much variation there is in elevation. For example, over in Hancock
county (Pass Christian, Bay St. Louis, Waveland, etc.), the water was as
high as 32 feet at the shoreline, but there are a fair number of houses
within 1-2 miles that got no water. If you walk out of my mother's
front door, you can see in one direction a house that had water _in the
attic_, in another direction a house where two people drowned _in the
attic_, and in another, one that didn't even have wet floors.


How very true. It was amazing to see homes within 3/4 mile from the
shore with NO water damage, yet homes just across the street totally
destroyed. The Rt 603 underpass at I-10, EIGHT miles from the shore
had a surge of water 30 feet high.


And that location is another example of things people don't realize
about the area. While I10-603 is about 8 miles from the shore of the MS
Sound, it is like many other areas down here - surrounded by back bays,
bayous, rivers, etc., all connected at some point to the Sound. For
those that don't know, the body of water directly offshore of the MS
coast is not actually the "Gulf of Mexico" per se, it is the
"Mississippi Sound," and it is _very_ shallow (channels have to be
regularly dredged to allow even shrimp boat traffic) for several miles
out to the barrier islands, where the actual Gulf really begins.

As to 603, it is basically on the Jourdan River (Louie - if you remember
the area, the bridge right near the 603 exit is over the Jourdan). Even
further up-river, several hundred modern, well-built houses on 10-12 ft.
pilings were wiped out (by both wind and water).

Frank, if you had gone just a few more miles west on I-10 to the
Waveland area, you would see how much damage they suffered.


If anyone is interested, do a Google Images search on "downtown waveland
katrina" and "downtown bay st. louis katrina" for all sorts of pics, and
look for before and after pics for some idea of just how bad Hancock
County got it.

Three friends are heading back down on Monday to Waveland to continue
rebuilding.


Thank them please, and if they need anything, let them know to feel free
to contact me - if you need my number, drop me an email.

TC,
R

Wolfgang February 5th, 2006 03:23 AM

Hey Wolfie...
 

wrote in message
...
Don't know if you know anyone from Frederick, WS or anyone associated
with "The Butterknife Group," but if you do, give 'em a big ol' "thank
you!"


I had to look at that one for a while.

I assume you mean Frederick, Wisconsin (WI). As it happens, I don't know
anyone from there. As matter of fact, I don't recall that I've ever heard
of the place. Nor have I ever heard of "The Butterknife group". It should
come as no surprise that I'm not aware of anything I have to thank them for.
I'll go yet further out on a limb and assume that you meant you'd like me to
pass on thanks from you. If I meet any of them, I'll do that.

Some of yer fellow cheeseheads are down here rebuilding houses,
and managed to get one done and the folks back home in 17 days - good on
'em.


Things have been pretty slow in Iowa lately......and the ice fishing pretty
much sucks around here.

Wolfgang



[email protected] February 5th, 2006 01:41 PM

Hey Wolfie...
 
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 21:23:10 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
Don't know if you know anyone from Frederick, WS or anyone associated
with "The Butterknife Group," but if you do, give 'em a big ol' "thank
you!"


I had to look at that one for a while.

I assume you mean Frederick, Wisconsin (WI).


Actually, based on the website link I posted and assuming they know how
to spell the name of their "home base," I meant Frederic, WI. And it
was unlikely that you would know any of them, but it was possible. As
such, I'd have rather taken the chance that some (more) appreciation
made it their way than worry about the odds.

Wolfgang February 5th, 2006 02:12 PM

Hey Wolfie...
 

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 21:23:10 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
Don't know if you know anyone from Frederick, WS or anyone associated
with "The Butterknife Group," but if you do, give 'em a big ol' "thank
you!"


I had to look at that one for a while.

I assume you mean Frederick, Wisconsin (WI).


Actually, based on the website link I posted and assuming they know how
to spell the name of their "home base," I meant Frederic, WI.


I didn't see a link anywhere in the message I responded to. Is there some
sort of invisible double-naught secret decoder ring thingy that everybody
but me knows about?

And it
was unlikely that you would know any of them, but it was possible.


That's what I like about this world......it's chock full of
possibilities......always keeps a boy guessing.

As
such, I'd have rather taken the chance that some (more) appreciation
made it their way than worry about the odds.


Well, the odds are it's possible you COULD have sent a message to the folks
they helped, reminding them to say "much obliged"......or something.

Wolfgang



David Snedeker February 7th, 2006 12:31 AM

Hey Wolfie...
 

wrote in message
...

On Bainbridge Island, WA, a 48 foot truck is 3/4th full of small appliances,
linen, pots/pans dinnerware and lots of tools. A project of "Bainbridge to
the Bayous, Island to Island," when full, the truck and so far $10k, will be
headed for the families of Abbeville, La.. Some of the $ came from
auctioning off a Superbowl ticket.

Dave




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