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From CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/...ney/index.html

....Cheney stood by his decision not to inform the national media directly of
the incident, instead allowing Katharine Armstrong, on whose ranch the
shooting occurred, to tell a Corpus Christi newspaper about the shooting the
next morning.

"I thought that made good sense because you can get as accurate a story as
possible from somebody who knew and understood hunting, and then it would
immediately go up to the wires and be posted on the Web site, which is the
way it went out," Cheney said. "And I thought that was the right call."

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Is it just me, or does anybody else get an eerie feeling that this means
something? :(

Wolfgang

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On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:29:25 -0600, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

Is it just me, or does anybody else get an eerie feeling that this means
something? :(


You're right, it's you.

We have Gore acting like a Jane Fonda and giving a sedicious speach at
a Muslim conference in Saudi Arabia, Iran building a nuclear weapon
(and probably North Korea too), Mexican military incursions across
our borders in the southwest, world wide Muslim riots over a cartoon,
a crucial war being fought in Iraq, Hamas elected in Palestine, our
SS and Medicare going down the toilet while Congress sits with their
fingers up their collective ass, and you're worrying about Cheney
hiding *something*, *ANYTHING*, about a hunting accident.

Un****inbelievable.......

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:29:25 -0600, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

Is it just me, or does anybody else get an eerie feeling that this means
something? :(


You're right, it's you.

O.k., one vote for "No", it doesn't mean anything. That's what I thought
but, what with being an immigrant and non-native speaker......

We have Gore acting like a Jane Fonda and giving a sedicious speach at
a Muslim conference in Saudi Arabia, Iran building a nuclear weapon
(and probably North Korea too), Mexican military incursions across
our borders in the southwest, world wide Muslim riots over a cartoon,
a crucial war being fought in Iraq, Hamas elected in Palestine, our
SS and Medicare going down the toilet while Congress sits with their
fingers up their collective ass, and you're worrying about Cheney
hiding *something*, *ANYTHING*, about a hunting accident.

Un****inbelievable.......

Hm......

Is it just me, or does anybody else get an eerie feeling that this means
something? :(

Wolfgang

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
"I thought that made good sense because you can get as accurate a story as
possible from somebody who knew and understood hunting, and then it would
immediately go up to the wires and be posted on the Web site, which is the
way it went out," Cheney said. "And I thought that was the right call."

It strikes me as kinda odd that the Veep would imply that information from
his office would be less accurate than that coming from a GOP lobbyist.
Given the variety and contradiction of Armstrong's "eyewitness" accounts, I
think Cheney's statement basically boils down to "F*ck you, I don't have to
tell you ****." But eerie? No.

Joe F.

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"rb608" wrote in message
news:JQOIf.16282$7C3.7230@trnddc08...
"Wolfgang" wrote in message
"I thought that made good sense because you can get as accurate a story
as possible from somebody who knew and understood hunting, and then it
would immediately go up to the wires and be posted on the Web site, which
is the way it went out," Cheney said. "And I thought that was the right
call."

It strikes me as kinda odd that the Veep would imply that information from
his office would be less accurate than that coming from a GOP lobbyist.
Given the variety and contradiction of Armstrong's "eyewitness" accounts,
I think Cheney's statement basically boils down to "F*ck you, I don't have
to tell you ****."

Yeah, That's the message alright.

But eerie? No.

Well, I guess I meant eerie in the sense that one normally expects the words
to have something to do with the meaning. :)

Good to have you back, Joe. Can't have too many thinkers in a place like
this.

Wolfgang

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
We have Gore acting like a Jane Fonda and giving a sedicious speach at
a Muslim conference in Saudi Arabia,

Well, let's look at the parallels, shall we. Fonda went to the capital of
our sworn wartime enemy and made speeches critical of the US. Gore went to
the country of one of our closest allies and urged an end to discrimination
against and abuses of a religious minority in this country. Brotherhood,
peace, understanding. Damned seditious stuff that.

Now if you want to argue that Saudi Arabia is our sworn enemy, I'd strongly
suggest that the Bush family and administration be fitted for blindfolds and
a cigarette asap.

As for the rest of it:

Iran building a nuclear weapon
(and probably North Korea too), Mexican military incursions across
our borders in the southwest, world wide Muslim riots over a cartoon,
a crucial war being fought in Iraq, Hamas elected in Palestine, our
SS and Medicare going down the toilet while Congress sits with their
fingers up their collective ass,

....the buck stops where? Oh wait, I forgot. It's Bill Clinton's fault.

and you're worrying about Cheney
hiding *something*, *ANYTHING*, about a hunting accident.

I'm not worried about it; but a certain degree of honesty and forthrightness
when the VP shoots somebody in the face doesn't seem like too much to ask.
Silence isn't honesty. Passing the buck isn't honesty. I realize it's not
like Dick got a blowjob or something, he only shot a guy.

Un****inbelievable.......

I always agree with you on at least one point. :-)

Joe F.

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On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:30:49 GMT, "rb608"
wrote:

I think Cheney's statement basically boils down to "F*ck you, I don't have to
tell you ****."

Now that's just utterly, totally ridiculous...come on, now...the man is
the VP of the US, a fairly wealthy public figure, and doesn't
particularly like the press corp. Do you really think he'd actually
_basically_ say, "F*ck you, I don't have to tell you ****."?

I mean, what are the chances he'd play it all coy and not just come
right out and say it, spell it, and tell them to write it down and shove
the notepad and the pen up their asses when they were done - **** the
"*" and the mule it rode in on...

HTH,
R

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...
From CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/...ney/index.html

...Cheney stood by his decision not to inform the national media directly
of the incident, instead allowing Katharine Armstrong, on whose ranch the
shooting occurred, to tell a Corpus Christi newspaper about the shooting
the next morning.

"I thought that made good sense because you can get as accurate a story as
possible from somebody who knew and understood hunting, and then it would
immediately go up to the wires and be posted on the Web site, which is the
way it went out," Cheney said. "And I thought that was the right call."

______________________________________________

Is it just me, or does anybody else get an eerie feeling that this means
something? :(


Hmm, I dunno. I don't usually read things as deeply as most of you guys
(missing all sorts of inside jokes, etc), but I can see the point he is
making; not to say its TRUE or that I completely agree. But I wonder what I
would have done in the same situation.

As an ex-boatman, I know that the public perception of the dangers of
rafting the Grand Canyon differs greatly from what the folks who are in the
business know. So if something happened down there, and I knew that the
press was going to have a field day, I'd want to get the information into
the wires via a channel that was going to provide as clear and unprejudiced
presentation as possible. So I'd tell it to some local rag that knew about
boating, let them write the text, and let that get into the mainstream. If
some pencil-pusher who had never been boating wrote it, it would be filled
with such inaccurate hyperbole that the less-biased tale would never get
out.

I guess I feel a bit weird about Cheny 'managing' the news, though, but I
can see that this 'management and secrecy' administration would consider
that a day at the office. There are a few topics in the American psyche that
require a ton of spin control: guns are certainly one. There's pretty much
no way that an incident like this could be spun in a good light: maybe he
should have realized that, and not tried to control the story. I think
delaying the announcement for a day was a poor decision, too, and drew a ton
of attention in his manipulations.

Hmm, it certainly puts a weird light on the phrase 'free press'. Its more
like dirt-cheap press.

--riverman

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"riverman" wrote in message ...

...I don't usually read things as deeply as most of you guys....

I fear you may have read this one rather TOO deeply. Joe got it right.
:)

Wolfgang