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[email protected] April 4th, 2006 04:57 PM

Fly fishing is more of an art than a science
 
The more time we have spent fishing with incorrect or insufficient
knowledge, the more time you have spent developing the mindset that the
trout is a vastly superior, cunning and unpredictable adversary, and
results like mine become seemingly unattainable, and without such
knowledge becoming available, the practical reality remains precisely
that.
Normally it takes years of studying these fish, trial and error with
different fly patterns, different fishing techniques, different
innovative designs and methods with the right focus to get to a place
where you understand these creatures adequately for the outstanding
results we normally only see the Pro's achieving.
http://wow.fishing-hunting.com/homeflyf.htm


Chris Rennert April 4th, 2006 07:16 PM

Fly fishing is more of an art than a science
 
Right, from my experience, trout are much easier to catch than say a
Florida Strain largemouth. Trout are more aggressive, and the only time
I have found they are difficult to catch is during a full blown hatch
and you don't have a fly that matches it! Other than those instances,
if you can present a bait to them, you will catch them more often than
not. There is nothing superior about Trout over any other species other
than a group got together and made them so! Fly fishing isn't difficult
to learn, but can be difficult to master. I have yet to meet a fly
fisherman in Wisconsin (steelhead specific) that can catch fish out of
deep water during the winter.
100% it is about understanding predator and most definitely prey, no
matter what species you are chasing. I have seen smallmouth get just as
keyed in as trout when it came to feeding. If you were not throwing a
crayfish imitation, you were not catching fish!
I had a situation this winter, when I was fishing steelhead in a river I
frequent (float fishing), and I stepped on some ice, and a 1" bluegill
shot up through the hole. I grabbed it, threw it on my jig, and casted
it out. Took a few drifts, but I eventually hooked a really nice
steelhead (ended up breaking my line). My friend asked why I would even
bother using it, I said why wouldn't I. How can you beat live bait,
that comes from the actual river you are fishing. Especially with a
species with as keen scent as a trout? Rick Clunn says pay attention to
nature, I think that in itself makes a world of difference!

Chris
wrote:
The more time we have spent fishing with incorrect or insufficient
knowledge, the more time you have spent developing the mindset that the
trout is a vastly superior, cunning and unpredictable adversary, and
results like mine become seemingly unattainable, and without such
knowledge becoming available, the practical reality remains precisely
that.
Normally it takes years of studying these fish, trial and error with
different fly patterns, different fishing techniques, different
innovative designs and methods with the right focus to get to a place
where you understand these creatures adequately for the outstanding
results we normally only see the Pro's achieving.
http://wow.fishing-hunting.com/homeflyf.htm


Ken Fortenberry April 4th, 2006 08:21 PM

Fly fishing is more of an art than a science
 
Chris Rennert wrote:
Right, from my experience, trout are much easier to catch than say a
Florida Strain largemouth. ...


In my experience fishing a stream is easier than fishing a
lake whether your quarry is bass or trout. Trout aren't that
difficult to catch and neither are bass but both are more
difficult to catch with fly fishing gear than with spinning
gear. That's why many of us prefer fly fishing.

As for bass versus trout, I prefer to target trout because of
where they're located. You can catch a bass in the tepid water
next to the town dump, a trout lives in the cool, clear waters
of the wild.

BTW, the original poster is a SPAMmer more interested in selling
something than in engaging rofb in conversation.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Dan, danl, danny boy, Redbeard, actually Greybeard April 4th, 2006 09:47 PM

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Chris Rennert April 4th, 2006 10:22 PM

Fly fishing is more of an art than a science
 
Ken,

It sounds like you are more of a purist when it comes to fly fishing.
Meaning, you actually fly fish, not float fish with a fly rod and fly
line. I have watched "fly fisherman" use a red/white float and a spawn
bag, on the flip side, I have run a #8 Teeny Nymph on 2lb test fluoro
under a float for both smallies and steelhead (with pretty good success).

I agree, stream/River fishing is much easier than Lake fishing. The
fish are more predictable as long as you understand the basic needs of
the species (which is really an umbrella statement that covers most
species in a river , be it trout, bass, walleye).

I have tried fly fishing, and always have a fly rod in my boat. Matter
of fact , last fall I was pulling streamers for smallies on Lake
Winnebago. And that was definitely a BLAST!

Take care,

Chris
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Chris Rennert wrote:
Right, from my experience, trout are much easier to catch than say a
Florida Strain largemouth. ...


In my experience fishing a stream is easier than fishing a
lake whether your quarry is bass or trout. Trout aren't that
difficult to catch and neither are bass but both are more
difficult to catch with fly fishing gear than with spinning
gear. That's why many of us prefer fly fishing.

As for bass versus trout, I prefer to target trout because of
where they're located. You can catch a bass in the tepid water
next to the town dump, a trout lives in the cool, clear waters
of the wild.

BTW, the original poster is a SPAMmer more interested in selling
something than in engaging rofb in conversation.


Bill Kiene April 6th, 2006 08:20 AM

Fly fishing is more of an art than a science
 
You can go to some remote part of the world where the fish are in a natural
wild state in a healthy eco system and they can be suicidal.

They will eat a cigarette butt out there. Big ones might at your hat?

Today there are dozen of great fly fishing schools if you don't want to take
years to get started.

There are great fly fishing guide too who can teach you to fly fish in a
day.

Books and DVDs are great too.

There are lots of local fly fishing clubs.

They have fly fishing classes at adult education.

Going to a particular fishery at "prime time" is very important too; kind of
like agriculture.

Anyone can learn to become a good fly fisher if they want to take the time.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


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The more time we have spent fishing with incorrect or insufficient
knowledge, the more time you have spent developing the mindset that the
trout is a vastly superior, cunning and unpredictable adversary, and
results like mine become seemingly unattainable, and without such
knowledge becoming available, the practical reality remains precisely
that.
Normally it takes years of studying these fish, trial and error with
different fly patterns, different fishing techniques, different
innovative designs and methods with the right focus to get to a place
where you understand these creatures adequately for the outstanding
results we normally only see the Pro's achieving.
http://wow.fishing-hunting.com/homeflyf.htm






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