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Mr. Opus McDopus May 5th, 2006 10:24 PM

Why two (2) rod tips?
 
I've been gettin' schooled in bamboo lately, tryin' to find out exactly what
happened to the Orvis rod I received. One thing that the Orvis folks and
several rod trader/dealers couldn't understand or fathom was that this rod
came originally with one tip.

I was given a reason for the extra tip and just wanted to find out if other
folks knew this reason as well.

So, what is the reason for the extra tip?

Op



Stuart DeWolfe May 5th, 2006 11:00 PM

Why two (2) rod tips?
 
You use the second tip to allow the first tip to dry out after a long period
of fishing. It aslo is handy if you break the first tip.
"Mr. Opus McDopus" wrote in message
. ..
I've been gettin' schooled in bamboo lately, tryin' to find out exactly

what
happened to the Orvis rod I received. One thing that the Orvis folks and
several rod trader/dealers couldn't understand or fathom was that this rod
came originally with one tip.

I was given a reason for the extra tip and just wanted to find out if

other
folks knew this reason as well.

So, what is the reason for the extra tip?

Op





Scott Seidman May 5th, 2006 11:07 PM

Why two (2) rod tips?
 
"Mr. Opus McDopus" wrote in news:UsP6g.60837
:

So, what is the reason for the extra tip?



When you fight a really big fish, just one tip would never do the job, so
you use both tips.

--
Scott
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Larry L May 5th, 2006 11:20 PM

Why two (2) rod tips?
 

"Mr. Opus McDopus" wrote


So, what is the reason for the extra tip?


I always heard it was something to do with the cane developing a permanent
'set' from being bent if the same tip was fished several days in a row
without a chance to 'rest' .... seemed like BS to me, but then most 'cane
lore' has a faint 'odour de pasture patty' if you ask me G

Larry ( who is the proud owner of an E.C.Powell cane rod built in 1927 that
has two tips, both well rested )









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Joel *DFD* May 6th, 2006 07:06 PM

Why two (2) rod tips?
 
Larry L. writes......
seemed like BS to me, but then most 'cane
lore' has a faint 'odour de pasture patty' if you ask me G


It is NOT BS. It is correct. You rest it to take out the set.
Joel


Mr. Opus McDopus May 6th, 2006 08:19 PM

Why two (2) rod tips?
 

"Joel *DFD*" wrote in message
oups.com...
Larry L. writes......
seemed like BS to me, but then most 'cane
lore' has a faint 'odour de pasture patty' if you ask me G


It is NOT BS. It is correct. You rest it to take out the set.
Joel


Okay, according to Orvis and a fellow that they directed me to, the primary
reason is that you are supposed to alternate tips each time out. Not
because of "set," but because over time the 'boo fibers loosen and cause the
rod to have a lower, more wimpy action. If each tip is used the same number
of times, it should lengthen the life of the rods overall casting quality.

It is my understanding that "set" shouldn't be a problem, if proper rod
maintenance is maintained over the life of the rod.

Op



Skwala May 6th, 2006 08:25 PM

Why two (2) rod tips?
 

"Mr. Opus McDopus" wrote in message
. ..
I've been gettin' schooled in bamboo lately, tryin' to find out exactly

what
happened to the Orvis rod I received. One thing that the Orvis folks and
several rod trader/dealers couldn't understand or fathom was that this rod
came originally with one tip.

I was given a reason for the extra tip and just wanted to find out if

other
folks knew this reason as well.

So, what is the reason for the extra tip?

Op


if only George Gherke was still with us... for questions like this.



George Adams May 7th, 2006 12:43 AM

Why two (2) rod tips?
 

Mr. Opus McDopus wrote:
"Joel *DFD*" wrote in message
oups.com...
Larry L. writes......
seemed like BS to me, but then most 'cane
lore' has a faint 'odour de pasture patty' if you ask me G


It is NOT BS. It is correct. You rest it to take out the set.
Joel


Okay, according to Orvis and a fellow that they directed me to, the primary
reason is that you are supposed to alternate tips each time out. Not
because of "set," but because over time the 'boo fibers loosen and cause the
rod to have a lower, more wimpy action. If each tip is used the same number
of times, it should lengthen the life of the rods overall casting quality.

It is my understanding that "set" shouldn't be a problem, if proper rod
maintenance is maintained over the life of the rod.

Op


My understanding when I bought mine was the alternate use of two tips
would even out the wear. Cane will develop a "softer" action over time,
and ferrules will wear out. The two tip option also allows an angler to
keep fishing should one tip break, which is not an uncommon occurence.
In some ways, cane is tougher than graphite, but in other ways it is
more fragile.


Mr. Opus McDopus May 7th, 2006 01:00 PM

Why two (2) rod tips?
 

"George Adams" wrote in message
oups.com...

Mr. Opus McDopus wrote:
"Joel *DFD*" wrote in message
oups.com...
Larry L. writes......
seemed like BS to me, but then most 'cane
lore' has a faint 'odour de pasture patty' if you ask me G

It is NOT BS. It is correct. You rest it to take out the set.
Joel


Okay, according to Orvis and a fellow that they directed me to, the
primary
reason is that you are supposed to alternate tips each time out. Not
because of "set," but because over time the 'boo fibers loosen and cause
the
rod to have a lower, more wimpy action. If each tip is used the same
number
of times, it should lengthen the life of the rods overall casting
quality.

It is my understanding that "set" shouldn't be a problem, if proper rod
maintenance is maintained over the life of the rod.

Op


My understanding when I bought mine was the alternate use of two tips
would even out the wear. Cane will develop a "softer" action over time,
and ferrules will wear out. The two tip option also allows an angler to
keep fishing should one tip break, which is not an uncommon occurence.
In some ways, cane is tougher than graphite, but in other ways it is
more fragile.


Yeah, that's what I was tryin' to say, when I said, "and cause the rod to
have a lower [should have read *slower*, but softer, as you said, is more
accurate], more wimpy action."

And yes, the extra tip does server as a spare, but that was not the
*primary* reason for the second tip, acccordin' to the so-called experts.
They never mentioned anything about ferrule wear?

Op --I have no original info of my own, just regurgitating other's words--



[email protected] May 8th, 2006 05:51 AM

Why two (2) rod tips?
 
On 6 May 2006 16:43:05 -0700, "George Adams"
wrote:


Mr. Opus McDopus wrote:
"Joel *DFD*" wrote in message
oups.com...
Larry L. writes......
seemed like BS to me, but then most 'cane
lore' has a faint 'odour de pasture patty' if you ask me G

It is NOT BS. It is correct. You rest it to take out the set.
Joel


Okay, according to Orvis and a fellow that they directed me to, the primary
reason is that you are supposed to alternate tips each time out. Not
because of "set," but because over time the 'boo fibers loosen and cause the
rod to have a lower, more wimpy action. If each tip is used the same number
of times, it should lengthen the life of the rods overall casting quality.

It is my understanding that "set" shouldn't be a problem, if proper rod
maintenance is maintained over the life of the rod.

Op


My understanding when I bought mine was the alternate use of two tips
would even out the wear. Cane will develop a "softer" action over time,
and ferrules will wear out. The two tip option also allows an angler to
keep fishing should one tip break, which is not an uncommon occurence.
In some ways, cane is tougher than graphite, but in other ways it is
more fragile.


FWIW, a "set" wouldn't happen in the tip alone, but being thinner, would
be more pronounced in it. There are several reasons to have a 2nd tip,
even wear and "accident insurance" being the two best ones, and
depending on the taper, "set" being a third.

TC,
R


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