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jeff June 5th, 2006 02:20 AM

bear of a day...
 

went to one of my favorite salty trout creeks this morning. uneventful
launch, headed out into the creek...first thing on entering the main
creek looked like a piling out in the middle, but it was making a wake
across the normal current. turned out to be a bear - a big one -
swimming across campbell creek. i followed him/her across the creek and
watched him/her scurry out of the water into the woods. pretty neat
start to the day. caught a few fish - speckled trout, flounder, and
blue fish - but, as i was heading out to a favorite spot in the sound,
my motor quit on me in the mouth of jones bay. ended the day beating
back into the wind about 5 miles using the trolling motor...it was a
pleasant afternoon for a slow boat ride back to hobucken, where i met a
lost soul from pennsylvania who corraled his friend to give me a ride to
get my truck...bummer, but, the bear sighting made it a splendid day.
pictures on abpf.

jeff

Tim J. June 5th, 2006 02:25 AM

bear of a day...
 
jeff wrote:
went to one of my favorite salty trout creeks this morning. uneventful
launch, headed out into the creek...first thing on entering the main
creek looked like a piling out in the middle, but it was making a wake
across the normal current. turned out to be a bear - a big one -
swimming across campbell creek.


That *IS* a big bear! At least you weren't fishing from the shoreline.
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/



daytripper June 5th, 2006 02:58 AM

bear of a day...
 
On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:20:10 -0400, jeff wrote:


went to one of my favorite salty trout creeks this morning. uneventful
launch, headed out into the creek...first thing on entering the main
creek looked like a piling out in the middle, but it was making a wake
across the normal current. turned out to be a bear - a big one -
swimming across campbell creek. i followed him/her across the creek and
watched him/her scurry out of the water into the woods. pretty neat
start to the day. caught a few fish - speckled trout, flounder, and
blue fish - but, as i was heading out to a favorite spot in the sound,
my motor quit on me in the mouth of jones bay. ended the day beating
back into the wind about 5 miles using the trolling motor...it was a
pleasant afternoon for a slow boat ride back to hobucken, where i met a
lost soul from pennsylvania who corraled his friend to give me a ride to
get my truck...bummer, but, the bear sighting made it a splendid day.
pictures on abpf.

jeff


This is the same boat you take 40 miles out into the ocean?

Wayne Harrison June 5th, 2006 04:33 AM

bear of a day...
 

"daytripper" wrote

This is the same boat you take 40 miles out into the ocean?


yep--i'm tellin' you, when you cross the neuse river, just east of
raleigh, headed further east, you enter a different world. dudes are
freaking *crazy* out there...

yfitons
wayno



jeff June 5th, 2006 12:53 PM

bear of a day...
 
daytripper wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:20:10 -0400, jeff wrote:


went to one of my favorite salty trout creeks this morning. uneventful
launch, headed out into the creek...first thing on entering the main
creek looked like a piling out in the middle, but it was making a wake
across the normal current. turned out to be a bear - a big one -
swimming across campbell creek. i followed him/her across the creek and
watched him/her scurry out of the water into the woods. pretty neat
start to the day. caught a few fish - speckled trout, flounder, and
blue fish - but, as i was heading out to a favorite spot in the sound,
my motor quit on me in the mouth of jones bay. ended the day beating
back into the wind about 5 miles using the trolling motor...it was a
pleasant afternoon for a slow boat ride back to hobucken, where i met a
lost soul from pennsylvania who corraled his friend to give me a ride to
get my truck...bummer, but, the bear sighting made it a splendid day.
pictures on abpf.

jeff



This is the same boat you take 40 miles out into the ocean?


no...use a 17' sea pro - a center console bay boat - in creeks and
rivers, the sal****er marshes, the sound, inshore sal****er on calm
days, and mountain lakes. great little boat. go to the gulf stream in a
25' carolina classic.

[email protected] June 7th, 2006 04:43 AM

bear of a day...
 
On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:20:10 -0400, jeff wrote:


went to one of my favorite salty trout creeks this morning. uneventful
launch, headed out into the creek...first thing on entering the main
creek looked like a piling out in the middle, but it was making a wake
across the normal current. turned out to be a bear - a big one -
swimming across campbell creek. i followed him/her across the creek and
watched him/her scurry out of the water into the woods. pretty neat
start to the day. caught a few fish - speckled trout, flounder, and
blue fish - but, as i was heading out to a favorite spot in the sound,
my motor quit on me in the mouth of jones bay.


That's pretty cool...

ended the day beating
back into the wind about 5 miles using the trolling motor...it was a
pleasant afternoon for a slow boat ride back to hobucken, where i met a
lost soul from pennsylvania who corraled his friend to give me a ride to
get my truck...bummer, but, the bear sighting made it a splendid day.
pictures on abpf.


Geez, Jeff, another breakdown? Is it time to coin the "full Miller" for
boating? Seriously, you might wish to look into TowBoatUS...and before
I go any further, I have no interest in BoatUS, TowBoatUS, or any tow
service...IAC, they are sort of like "AAA" for the water. I'm sure that
much like AAA, the service varies, but in my (limited) experience with
them, they are a decent deal, especially if one is prone to need tow
services. For 139.00 a year, you get unlimited towing/breakdown/fuel
hotshotting/etc., and for 89.00 a year, you get (IIRC) 500.00USD per
incident coverage. BoatUS is www.boatus.com . They claim more service
boats and areas than SeaTow, but I have no idea on what that is based.

And for the record, I do know the service owner in S. MS, but I get
nothing whatsoever if anyone joins.

TC,
R


jeff


jeff June 7th, 2006 12:53 PM

bear of a day...
 
wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:20:10 -0400, jeff wrote:


went to one of my favorite salty trout creeks this morning. uneventful
launch, headed out into the creek...first thing on entering the main
creek looked like a piling out in the middle, but it was making a wake
across the normal current. turned out to be a bear - a big one -
swimming across campbell creek. i followed him/her across the creek and
watched him/her scurry out of the water into the woods. pretty neat
start to the day. caught a few fish - speckled trout, flounder, and
blue fish - but, as i was heading out to a favorite spot in the sound,
my motor quit on me in the mouth of jones bay.



That's pretty cool...


ended the day beating
back into the wind about 5 miles using the trolling motor...it was a
pleasant afternoon for a slow boat ride back to hobucken, where i met a
lost soul from pennsylvania who corraled his friend to give me a ride to
get my truck...bummer, but, the bear sighting made it a splendid day.
pictures on abpf.



Geez, Jeff, another breakdown? Is it time to coin the "full Miller" for
boating? Seriously, you might wish to look into TowBoatUS...and before
I go any further, I have no interest in BoatUS, TowBoatUS, or any tow
service...IAC, they are sort of like "AAA" for the water. I'm sure that
much like AAA, the service varies, but in my (limited) experience with
them, they are a decent deal, especially if one is prone to need tow
services. For 139.00 a year, you get unlimited towing/breakdown/fuel
hotshotting/etc., and for 89.00 a year, you get (IIRC) 500.00USD per
incident coverage. BoatUS is
www.boatus.com . They claim more service
boats and areas than SeaTow, but I have no idea on what that is based.

And for the record, I do know the service owner in S. MS, but I get
nothing whatsoever if anyone joins.

TC,
R


jeff


heck...it's a normal part of the boating experience, no? i have some
friends who would better serve as models for the "full-(yournamehere)"
characterization. i've been fortunate with the bay boat...no problems
for several years of constant use. i think this one involved the water
pump and cooling system. anyway, i don't subscribe to a towing service
for the bay boat. i'm always close enough to shore and some landing that
i feel secure in getting home ok, eventually. between the trolling
motor and the relative certainty that friends within a cell phone call
or other boaters will tow me, i've not been too concerned with it. but,
before i ever left the dock with the offshore boat i had a seatow card
in my wallet. seatow seems to be the better equipped and more responsive
service in my area of north carolina. the annual premium - about $135 -
is excellent value. plus, on the recent breakdown off lookout, the
towing charge was over a $1,000...but no charge to me as a seatow
member. i was very pleased with the service. like you, i recommend
getting the towing insurance package to anyone who owns a boat used for
offshore sal****er fishing or who might be concerned about getting towed
back to their homeport after a breakdown. just be aware of the limits
of the service, because the charges for non-covered work can be very,
very costly.

jeff

[email protected] June 7th, 2006 02:43 PM

bear of a day...
 
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 07:53:47 -0400, jeff wrote:

wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 21:20:10 -0400, jeff wrote:


went to one of my favorite salty trout creeks this morning. uneventful
launch, headed out into the creek...first thing on entering the main
creek looked like a piling out in the middle, but it was making a wake
across the normal current. turned out to be a bear - a big one -
swimming across campbell creek. i followed him/her across the creek and
watched him/her scurry out of the water into the woods. pretty neat
start to the day. caught a few fish - speckled trout, flounder, and
blue fish - but, as i was heading out to a favorite spot in the sound,
my motor quit on me in the mouth of jones bay.



That's pretty cool...


ended the day beating
back into the wind about 5 miles using the trolling motor...it was a
pleasant afternoon for a slow boat ride back to hobucken, where i met a
lost soul from pennsylvania who corraled his friend to give me a ride to
get my truck...bummer, but, the bear sighting made it a splendid day.
pictures on abpf.



Geez, Jeff, another breakdown? Is it time to coin the "full Miller" for
boating? Seriously, you might wish to look into TowBoatUS...and before
I go any further, I have no interest in BoatUS, TowBoatUS, or any tow
service...IAC, they are sort of like "AAA" for the water. I'm sure that
much like AAA, the service varies, but in my (limited) experience with
them, they are a decent deal, especially if one is prone to need tow
services. For 139.00 a year, you get unlimited towing/breakdown/fuel
hotshotting/etc., and for 89.00 a year, you get (IIRC) 500.00USD per
incident coverage. BoatUS is www.boatus.com . They claim more service
boats and areas than SeaTow, but I have no idea on what that is based.

And for the record, I do know the service owner in S. MS, but I get
nothing whatsoever if anyone joins.

TC,
R


jeff


heck...it's a normal part of the boating experience, no?


Yes. See below....

i have some friends who would better serve as models for the "full-(yournamehere)"
characterization. i've been fortunate with the bay boat...no problems
for several years of constant use. i think this one involved the water
pump and cooling system. anyway, i don't subscribe to a towing service
for the bay boat. i'm always close enough to shore and some landing that
i feel secure in getting home ok, eventually. between the trolling
motor and the relative certainty that friends within a cell phone call
or other boaters will tow me, i've not been too concerned with it. but,
before i ever left the dock with the offshore boat i had a seatow card
in my wallet. seatow seems to be the better equipped and more responsive
service in my area of north carolina. the annual premium - about $135 -
is excellent value. plus, on the recent breakdown off lookout, the
towing charge was over a $1,000...but no charge to me as a seatow
member. i was very pleased with the service. like you, i recommend
getting the towing insurance package to anyone who owns a boat used for
offshore sal****er fishing or who might be concerned about getting towed
back to their homeport after a breakdown. just be aware of the limits
of the service, because the charges for non-covered work can be very,
very costly.


FWIW, TowBoatUS is really like AAA - _you're_ covered, not _a_ boat, and
as such, your boats, boats you charter or borrow, etc. are covered
without "primary vessel" reg'ing, ala SeaTow. What would happen if
someone borrowed your boat, I don't know. And as to SeaTow, they are
here, too, but they are stretched pretty thin with everything right now
- they are even doing land recovery. IAC, I like them, and wouldn't
hesitate to recommend them, too. As your point location is a good
one - as far as I know, they both are like AAA in that the provider is
not an employee of the either SeaTow or TowBoat, but a contract
provider, and as such, one may well be better in one area.

As to water systems, ****! It must be that time of the year...I've been
fighting a raw water pump issue on a starboard engine for 3 days. I
think a pyramid washer has finally locked the sorry POS down tight
(knock on teak).

My recent incident is sorta funny actually: we're getting ready for the
Blessing of the Fleet and the Schooner Race (this weekend), and were
doing a prep cruise on the boat we plan to use with a few non-boating
types on-board (last weekend) when the raw water pump belt started
slipping. For those that have never heard such, imagine a automotive
belt squeal with the squeal due to a family of rabid chimps being caught
up in the belts. About 20 seconds into the squeal, the temp sensor
registers the heat rise and the engine shuts down. The boating types
realize it's no real big deal as far as returning to port is concerned,
while the non-boater types start looking for life jackets and have
visions of a CG rescue...I, on the other hand, have visions of my ass
crawling around under the engine to remedy things...

TC,
R

jeff June 8th, 2006 01:29 AM

bear of a day...
 
wrote:

The boating types
realize it's no real big deal as far as returning to port is concerned,
while the non-boater types start looking for life jackets and have
visions of a CG rescue...I, on the other hand, have visions of my ass
crawling around under the engine to remedy things...



g ...while i'm not a life-jacket paranoid, if ever i was crawling
about any engine, i'd recommend everyone on board immediately don a
lifejacket as i'd undoubtedly pull the wrong shuttlecock or plug in such
a misguided adventure. when my sal****er boat broke down, i looked at
the engine solely for the purpose of assuring there wasn't a flame,
smoke, or spewing liquids that might require an abandon ship response. i
had no idea what was wrong...figured i was simply once again victimized
and ****upon by yet another movement of the cosmic mechanical
sphincters. when i got back to the dock, mel the mechanic got on the
boat, put his hand on something that looked like the rest of the
indistinguishable engine landscape to me, and pronounced the problem as
a bad high pressure fuel pump. mel is an "engine whisperer" and i
consider him worthy of hero worship.

jeff

[email protected] June 8th, 2006 06:11 AM

bear of a day...
 
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:29:53 -0400, jeff wrote:

wrote:

The boating types
realize it's no real big deal as far as returning to port is concerned,
while the non-boater types start looking for life jackets and have
visions of a CG rescue...I, on the other hand, have visions of my ass
crawling around under the engine to remedy things...



g ...while i'm not a life-jacket paranoid, if ever i was crawling
about any engine, i'd recommend everyone on board immediately don a
lifejacket as i'd undoubtedly pull the wrong shuttlecock or plug in such
a misguided adventure. when my sal****er boat broke down, i looked at
the engine solely for the purpose of assuring there wasn't a flame,
smoke, or spewing liquids that might require an abandon ship response. i
had no idea what was wrong...figured i was simply once again victimized
and ****upon by yet another movement of the cosmic mechanical
sphincters. when i got back to the dock, mel the mechanic got on the
boat, put his hand on something that looked like the rest of the
indistinguishable engine landscape to me, and pronounced the problem as
a bad high pressure fuel pump. mel is an "engine whisperer" and i
consider him worthy of hero worship.

jeff


My (totally unasked-for) advice would be to study up on the basic
workings of your motor(s). A whole lot of what goes wrong can be fixed
or patched on the water if one has some basic info, a few spare parts,
and a relative few well-chosen tools (and no, a "Crescent"/Polish speed
wrench, pump pliers, two screwdrivers, and a Leatherman does not a tool
kit make). Marine drive systems, be the inboard, I/O, or outboard are
not all that complicated, and most problems are either fuel, spark, or
adjustment(s)/cleaning (with the exceptions of things like dip****s
ringing out outdrive cases on I/Os if a cable gets a little hinky).

Obviously, major problems aren't readily fixable on the water, but in my
experience, catastrophic failures don't usually happen too far from
splash/leaving port with reasonably well-maintained engines. I'd
suspect that you take reasonable care of your engines and that you're
more than capable of handling a fair amount of the minor stuff.

And another suggestion - a good (used, older, simpler, IMO) kicker
setup, and if possible, one that can function on more than one boat. I
like something along the lines of a 15-20 hp, and if the boat is
gasoline-powered, the kicker's fuel tank can serve as an emergency
supply for the main(s). If you take that advice, please take this as
well - exercise the kicker regularly.

TC,
R


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