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rw June 23rd, 2006 04:35 PM

bear attack in Alaska
 
Warning: There's seriously gruesome photo in this article.

http://mountainsurvival.com/news_art...earattack.html

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Daniel-San June 23rd, 2006 04:51 PM

bear attack in Alaska
 

"rw" wrote ...
Warning: There's seriously gruesome photo in this article.

http://mountainsurvival.com/news_art...earattack.html



Sorta:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/bearhunt.asp

Dan



Ken Fortenberry June 23rd, 2006 04:55 PM

bear attacked in Alaska
 
Daniel-San wrote:
"rw" wrote ...
Warning: There's seriously gruesome photo in this article.

http://mountainsurvival.com/news_art...earattack.html


Sorta:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/bearhunt.asp


LOL !! I've made the Subject: more appropriate. ;-)

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Alaskan420 June 23rd, 2006 09:42 PM

bear attack in Alaska
 

"rw" wrote in message
k.net...
Warning: There's seriously gruesome photo in this article.

http://mountainsurvival.com/news_art...earattack.html

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Yup. I doubt hollering "hey bear" a few times would have chased him away.
BTW Dave, did you say 15 feet?


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[email protected] June 23rd, 2006 10:40 PM

bear attack in Alaska
 
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:42:51 GMT, "Alaskan420"
wrote:

Yup. I doubt hollering "hey bear" a few times would have chased him away.
BTW Dave, did you say 15 feet?


You saw the pictures. Yes, 15 feet from a feeding sow and her cubs.

You will notice in all that I have said that the bears, regardless
their size, were not interested in us because they had plenty to eat
with the salmon. Plus, the salmon eating bears of Katmai are used to
seeing humans. That big honker was looking for food and there aren't
too many salmon around in late October. People make wonderful snacks
at that time of the year. Also, the picture of the half eaten man has
nothing to do with the big bear shown in the photos. Barnard would
like everyone to think that the bear pictured killed said man. Ain't
true. Two entirely different cases.

It does bring out one funny thing (besides the phony picture
connection) that bear spray and a pistol are not going to help you
avoiid death. You run into a monster like that, you can kiss your ass
goodbye unless you have a hunting rifle.

Dave
Procedure went fine. I'm a perfect asshole.








Daniel-San June 23rd, 2006 10:44 PM

bear attack in Alaska
 

dplacourse wrote ...


Procedure went fine. I'm a perfect asshole.


Glad to hear it. Not fun, but not horrible, either -- so long as the results
are good, I suppose.

Dan



Ken Fortenberry June 23rd, 2006 10:58 PM

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wrote:

... You run into a monster like that, you can kiss your ass
goodbye unless you have a hunting rifle.


A 12 gauge pump with an 18" barrel loaded with alternating
shells of 00 buckshot and deer slugs was my choice.

Procedure went fine. I'm a perfect asshole.


Excellent. Enjoy your feast and clink this Bud's for you. ;-)

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John Hightower June 23rd, 2006 11:57 PM

bear attack in Alaska
 

wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:42:51 GMT, "Alaskan420"


Also, the picture of the half eaten man has
nothing to do with the big bear shown in the photos. Barnard would
like everyone to think that the bear pictured killed said man. Ain't
true. Two entirely different cases.


I've been told that, as far as getting eaten goes, black bears are a bigger
problem than griz. Griz attacks tend to be more territorial, black bear
attacks, while rare, tend to be predatory. I guess its possible to survive
a griz attack by the old fetal position if ALL else fails, but with a black
you'd better think of something else. I have no idea if thats true for the
Alaskan Brown bear (their version of the griz)


It does bring out one funny thing (besides the phony picture
connection) that bear spray and a pistol are not going to help you
avoiid death. You run into a monster like that, you can kiss your ass
goodbye unless you have a hunting rifle.


I'm pretty comfortable with things that go bang- what I've read is if your
hunting bear in AK, the guides up there don't like to see you with anything
lighter than a .375 h&h. The 7mm, .308, .338 cal's don't leave a big enough
hole for all the blood to leak out of fast enough. I'd sure hate to have a
****ed off one comming at me even if I had S&W .500. Have to be either a
real lucky shot, or enough noise to make him/her stop or turn.

Dave
Procedure went fine. I'm a perfect asshole.


very glad to hear it Dave.

jh



rw June 24th, 2006 12:21 AM

bear attack in Alaska
 
John Hightower wrote:

I'm pretty comfortable with things that go bang- what I've read is if your
hunting bear in AK, the guides up there don't like to see you with anything
lighter than a .375 h&h. The 7mm, .308, .338 cal's don't leave a big enough
hole for all the blood to leak out of fast enough. I'd sure hate to have a
****ed off one comming at me even if I had S&W .500. Have to be either a
real lucky shot, or enough noise to make him/her stop or turn.


I, for one, will not turn down an offer of free bear spray, but I'm not
deluding myself that bear spray would have stopped that monster.

I just don't want to be in the position of thinking, "****. I should
have taken that bear spray."

I regret credulously posting a link to a half-true story. That gory
picture of the ex-hiker was irresistible.

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rw June 24th, 2006 12:33 AM

bear attack in Alaska
 
John Hightower wrote:
wrote in message
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:42:51 GMT, "Alaskan420"



Also, the picture of the half eaten man has
nothing to do with the big bear shown in the photos. Barnard would
like everyone to think that the bear pictured killed said man. Ain't
true. Two entirely different cases.



I've been told that, as far as getting eaten goes, black bears are a bigger
problem than griz. Griz attacks tend to be more territorial, black bear
attacks, while rare, tend to be predatory. I guess its possible to survive
a griz attack by the old fetal position if ALL else fails, but with a black
you'd better think of something else. I have no idea if thats true for the
Alaskan Brown bear (their version of the griz)


That bear was huge. He must have been old. Maybe he had bad teeth, or a
broken bone, or was really, really ****ed off about not scoring with the
sows because some young stud kicked his ass. Maybe offing some arrogant
hairless bipedal ape seemed like a really good idea at the time.

Whatever. The point is that brown bears aren't cut out with a
bear-shaped cookie cutter. They come in all different colors of
personality and circumstance. The mere fact that even an immature one
can tear you to pieces in seconds should at least give you pause.

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