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John July 22nd, 2006 08:15 PM

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Greetings all,

I have bee looking for the "safest" way to take Pike and Musky off the
hook and have found a bunch of things to try but I have not found the
best way yet. I always seem to get hurt one way or another. It's
becoming a frightening experience but I still like to catch them. One
thing I have not tried yet is a jaw clamp. They look kind of weak
though.

Any sugestions would be appreciated except those that would harm the
fish.

Thanks to all,
John


Bob La Londe July 22nd, 2006 08:36 PM

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Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale?

When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land fish
safely?


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John July 22nd, 2006 09:26 PM

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Hey Bob, I like it! I'm going to look into one of these things.

A jaw clamp is a spring loaded thing that is suppose to hold the fishes
mouth open.

I've never gone fishing with a guide before, so I'm not sure about the
cradle. I just grap it's tail and put my hand under it belly. This
seems to calm the fish but they sometimes surprise you with a snap at
your fingers, even with the plyers in their mouth.

Thanks,
John

Bob La Londe wrote:
Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale?

When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land fish
safely?


--
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Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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John July 22nd, 2006 09:39 PM

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Hey Bob I found a good video on fish cradles. Looks like a good idea.

Thanks I think you have given me that answer I was looking for.

When all else fails ...... ask!

Thanks agian,
John

John wrote:
Hey Bob, I like it! I'm going to look into one of these things.

A jaw clamp is a spring loaded thing that is suppose to hold the fishes
mouth open.

I've never gone fishing with a guide before, so I'm not sure about the
cradle. I just grap it's tail and put my hand under it belly. This
seems to calm the fish but they sometimes surprise you with a snap at
your fingers, even with the plyers in their mouth.

Thanks,
John

Bob La Londe wrote:
Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale?

When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land fish
safely?


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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Bob La Londe July 22nd, 2006 10:00 PM

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"John" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hey Bob I found a good video on fish cradles. Looks like a good idea.

Thanks I think you have given me that answer I was looking for.

When all else fails ...... ask!


I isn't no muskie fisherdude, but I seen one on TV.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com




Thanks agian,
John

John wrote:
Hey Bob, I like it! I'm going to look into one of these things.

A jaw clamp is a spring loaded thing that is suppose to hold the fishes
mouth open.

I've never gone fishing with a guide before, so I'm not sure about the
cradle. I just grap it's tail and put my hand under it belly. This
seems to calm the fish but they sometimes surprise you with a snap at
your fingers, even with the plyers in their mouth.

Thanks,
John

Bob La Londe wrote:
Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale?

When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land
fish
safely?


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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John July 23rd, 2006 12:29 AM

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I going to try it out next weekend and I'll let you know what I think.

Later,
John

Bob La Londe wrote:
"John" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hey Bob I found a good video on fish cradles. Looks like a good idea.

Thanks I think you have given me that answer I was looking for.

When all else fails ...... ask!


I isn't no muskie fisherdude, but I seen one on TV.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com




Thanks agian,
John

John wrote:
Hey Bob, I like it! I'm going to look into one of these things.

A jaw clamp is a spring loaded thing that is suppose to hold the fishes
mouth open.

I've never gone fishing with a guide before, so I'm not sure about the
cradle. I just grap it's tail and put my hand under it belly. This
seems to calm the fish but they sometimes surprise you with a snap at
your fingers, even with the plyers in their mouth.

Thanks,
John

Bob La Londe wrote:
Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale?

When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land
fish
safely?


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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Rich P July 23rd, 2006 01:41 AM

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A pair of leather work gloves can't hurt.

Rich P


"John" wrote in message
oups.com...
I going to try it out next weekend and I'll let you know what I think.

Later,
John

Bob La Londe wrote:
"John" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hey Bob I found a good video on fish cradles. Looks like a good idea.

Thanks I think you have given me that answer I was looking for.

When all else fails ...... ask!


I isn't no muskie fisherdude, but I seen one on TV.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com




Thanks agian,
John

John wrote:
Hey Bob, I like it! I'm going to look into one of these things.

A jaw clamp is a spring loaded thing that is suppose to hold the
fishes
mouth open.

I've never gone fishing with a guide before, so I'm not sure about the
cradle. I just grap it's tail and put my hand under it belly. This
seems to calm the fish but they sometimes surprise you with a snap at
your fingers, even with the plyers in their mouth.

Thanks,
John

Bob La Londe wrote:
Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale?

When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to
land
fish
safely?


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers July 23rd, 2006 05:12 PM

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"John" wrote in message
oups.com...
Greetings all,

I have bee looking for the "safest" way to take Pike and Musky off the
hook and have found a bunch of things to try but I have not found the
best way yet. I always seem to get hurt one way or another. It's
becoming a frightening experience but I still like to catch them. One
thing I have not tried yet is a jaw clamp. They look kind of weak
though.

Any sugestions would be appreciated except those that would harm the
fish.


I've been handling muskies and pike for the past 20+ years without serious
incident. I will, unless guiding simply handland the fish. I do this by
sliding my fingers underneath the gill plate (avoiding the gills
themselves), moving my fingers forward until I get to the vee notch under
the chin. You'll feel a "boney" ridge, clamp down just forward (toward the
fish's nose) of the ridge and that will control the fish quite nicely. Most
times I don't lift the fish from the water, preferring to simply unhook the
fish in the water. If guiding, I have a LARGE landing net, I scoop the fish
and leave it in the water, performing the unhooking operation while the fish
is in the net.

Of course, I have all my unhooking materials already handy, pliers, small
bolt cutter (in the event I have to cut a hook) and jaw spreader before I
start on the fish.

I've done this literally thousands of times and haven't gotten more than
scraped knuckles from the gill rakers.

You could do the same, and if you're worried about scraped knuckles, get one
of those "chainmail" type fillet gloves. I believe Normark sells them.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers July 23rd, 2006 05:15 PM

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"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .
Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale?

When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land
fish safely?


I've tried cradles in the past, but I don't care for them. First of all,
they're next to impossible to use when fishing solo and secondly, a large
landing net works just as well.

When you have to lead a fish the entire length of it's body into a cradle,
the potential for hooks to grab on the netting are greatly increased.
There's little worse than having a hook stuck in the netting with 30 inches
of a 48 inch fish's body still outside the cradle!
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



John July 23rd, 2006 09:42 PM

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Thanks Rich and Steve,

I have one of those mail gloves and it works great for holding the fish
but I have a
bit of a physical disablity that causes me to twitch at times without
warning and
can make me stick my finger right into the fish's mouth, so I'm
thinking the boga grip
might be my best choce right now. As long as I can keep my fingers as
far away as possible from the fish's mouth the safer for me..... and
the fish.

Thanks again,
John

Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .
Jaw clamp? How about a boga grip scale?

When fishing with a guide don't the guides usually use a cradle to land
fish safely?


I've tried cradles in the past, but I don't care for them. First of all,
they're next to impossible to use when fishing solo and secondly, a large
landing net works just as well.

When you have to lead a fish the entire length of it's body into a cradle,
the potential for hooks to grab on the netting are greatly increased.
There's little worse than having a hook stuck in the netting with 30 inches
of a 48 inch fish's body still outside the cradle!
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com




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