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Tying Kits?
I haven't tied since the early 80's and would like to get back into it this
fall. I'm looking for a recommendation on a tying kit. I still have the vise and tools, in need of materials. I recently received a Kaufmann's Streamborn catalog and see that they sell tying kits. Thanks |
Tying Kits?
"Jim" wrote in message ... I haven't tied since the early 80's and would like to get back into it this fall. I'm looking for a recommendation on a tying kit. I still have the vise and tools, in need of materials. I recently received a Kaufmann's Streamborn catalog and see that they sell tying kits. Thanks IMHO, if I were you, I would forgo the kits. Most of the material is second rate. In our tying classes, we recommend you decide what flies you want to tie and then buy the material for them. By doing this you will be assured of getting first rate materials. |
Tying Kits?
IMHO, if I were you, I would forgo the kits. Most of the material is second
rate. In our tying classes, we recommend you decide what flies you want to tie and then buy the material for them. I second that advice. vince |
Tying Kits?
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:54:40 -0400, vincent p. norris
wrote: IMHO, if I were you, I would forgo the kits. Most of the material is second rate. In our tying classes, we recommend you decide what flies you want to tie and then buy the material for them. I second that advice. vince I third that advice as well. But would be willing to sell the leftovers from my tying kit if you are interestedg. Actually get the good materials and forego the seconds. Allyn |
Tying Kits?
"Jack Schmitt" wrote in message
. .. "Jim" wrote in message ... I haven't tied since the early 80's and would like to get back into it this fall. I'm looking for a recommendation on a tying kit. I still have the vise and tools, in need of materials. I recently received a Kaufmann's Streamborn catalog and see that they sell tying kits. Thanks IMHO, if I were you, I would forgo the kits. Most of the material is second rate. In our tying classes, we recommend you decide what flies you want to tie and then buy the material for them. By doing this you will be assured of getting first rate materials. Kaufmann's Streamborn makes a special effort to explain the deficiency of most tying kits and emphasizes that their kits are stocked with first quality materials. This is what made me wonder if some kits may be worthwhile. I want to tie a variety of dry/wet/streamers and nymph patterns which will be expensive whether I go with their combined kits or on my own. Thanks for the responses. Jim |
Tying Kits?
"Jim" wrote in message ... "Jack Schmitt" wrote in message . .. "Jim" wrote in message ... I haven't tied since the early 80's and would like to get back into it this fall. I'm looking for a recommendation on a tying kit. I still have the vise and tools, in need of materials. I recently received a Kaufmann's Streamborn catalog and see that they sell tying kits. Thanks IMHO, if I were you, I would forgo the kits. Most of the material is second rate. In our tying classes, we recommend you decide what flies you want to tie and then buy the material for them. By doing this you will be assured of getting first rate materials. Kaufmann's Streamborn makes a special effort to explain the deficiency of most tying kits and emphasizes that their kits are stocked with first quality materials. This is what made me wonder if some kits may be worthwhile. I want to tie a variety of dry/wet/streamers and nymph patterns which will be expensive whether I go with their combined kits or on my own. Even if the materials are top quality, you still end up getting a pile of stuff that you may or may not use. Avoidance is about the closest you will ever come to consensus on any issue among experienced fly tiers......especially among those who started with a kit. Bear in mind that most of the materials you'll use are actually pretty cheap. Aside from a few exotic materials like jungle cock, about the only thing that's really expensive is premium quality hackle......and that is something you can buy in small quantities as needed, rather than forking out the big bucks for a whole neck. Many materials can be had for lower prices (even for much larger quantities) from arts and crafts suppliers, fabric stores, hardware stores and many other sources. For example, you could spend several dollars for a small card wound with a yard or two of chenille at a fly tying materials vendor, while a trip to a well stocked crafts supplier might result in a large spool for the same price or lower. Many years ago, I found several sizes and colors of chenille at a store that specialized in selling junk picked up from a variety of sources. Each large spool was wound with a couple hundred yards. They cost me 50 cents each. Wolfgang |
Tying Kits?
"Wolfgang" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... "Jack Schmitt" wrote in message . .. "Jim" wrote in message ... I haven't tied since the early 80's and would like to get back into it this fall. I'm looking for a recommendation on a tying kit. I still have the vise and tools, in need of materials. I recently received a Kaufmann's Streamborn catalog and see that they sell tying kits. Thanks IMHO, if I were you, I would forgo the kits. Most of the material is second rate. In our tying classes, we recommend you decide what flies you want to tie and then buy the material for them. By doing this you will be assured of getting first rate materials. Kaufmann's Streamborn makes a special effort to explain the deficiency of most tying kits and emphasizes that their kits are stocked with first quality materials. This is what made me wonder if some kits may be worthwhile. I want to tie a variety of dry/wet/streamers and nymph patterns which will be expensive whether I go with their combined kits or on my own. Even if the materials are top quality, you still end up getting a pile of stuff that you may or may not use. Avoidance is about the closest you will ever come to consensus on any issue among experienced fly tiers......especially among those who started with a kit. Bear in mind that most of the materials you'll use are actually pretty cheap. Aside from a few exotic materials like jungle cock, about the only thing that's really expensive is premium quality hackle......and that is something you can buy in small quantities as needed, rather than forking out the big bucks for a whole neck. Many materials can be had for lower prices (even for much larger quantities) from arts and crafts suppliers, fabric stores, hardware stores and many other sources. For example, you could spend several dollars for a small card wound with a yard or two of chenille at a fly tying materials vendor, while a trip to a well stocked crafts supplier might result in a large spool for the same price or lower. Many years ago, I found several sizes and colors of chenille at a store that specialized in selling junk picked up from a variety of sources. Each large spool was wound with a couple hundred yards. They cost me 50 cents each. Wolfgang Good point on the craft stores! I'll keep that in mind. Jim |
Tying Kits?
Wolfgang wrote:
Even if the materials are top quality, you still end up getting a pile of stuff that you may or may not use. I've never bought a kit and I have an ENORMOUS freaking pile of materials I'll never use. One of the joys of tying for a number of years is that you nearly always have something in the pile that will make do. The main problem is finding it. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
I will accord up sets. Most of these abstracts is the second rate. Bundled in our class, we acclaim that you adjudge what you wish to fly tie, again buy their material. By accomplishing so, you will be assured access to capital material.
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I've never bought a kit and I accept an ENORMOUS freaking accumulation of materials I'll never use. One of the joys of attached for a amount of years is that you about consistently accept something in the accumulation that will accomplish do. The capital botheration is award it.
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