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Larry L October 17th, 2006 11:16 PM

failures
 
It's pretty easy to share/ get others to share successes at the vise ....
patterns that produce.

But, as I clean out my boxes at the end of a season, and prepare to restock
them, I note some real failures ...patterns that I thought "should" work but
that failed to impress the trout.

We can clearly learn from and make use of other's successes, but we can also
learn from efforts that didn't work out

So, one glaring example of failure in my boxes last season was any effort I
made to incorporate "Ice Dub" Being a typical fly tying sucker, I
bought several colors of this stuff and tried it on a variety of patterns
where it seemed to make sense. None worked well, and the only one that
wasn't a total waste of hook and time was a Troth PT nymph with the real
peacock replaced with "peacock" Ice Dub. Even this pattern is well
outfished by the real deal, however.

Any attempt I made to use this product for trailing shucks, emerger bodies,
or other things where it looks damn good "in the vise" left the fish
laughing in their lies or running for cover, in the cases of the more timid
creatures. I don't think I caught a single fish on a fly using this ultra
reflective stuff, with the exception noted above, and I tried it in several
pattern variations and on several waters.

I have no clue why, it DOES look cool to me, and my brain is about trout
sized. I have several bags of Ice Dub that are now in the garbage can. I
could afford to travel and fish another month each year if I wasn't such a
sucker at fly shops G



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pittendrigh October 18th, 2006 02:58 PM

failures
 

Larry L wrote:
It's pretty easy to share/ get others to share successes at the vise ....
patterns that produce.

But, as I clean out my boxes at the end of a season, and prepare to restock
them, I note some real failures ...patterns that I thought "should" work but
that failed to impress the trout.



......my flies always work!
Hah, I wish that was true. The only thing I'll add is
that some of (many of, most of) my more "realisitic"
patterns have turned out to be end-of-the-season failures.

I love to tie flies, and I do it all winter long.
So I have hundreds of patterns and dozens of
fly boxes. But when hook comes to leader, I do seem
to fish the same dozen or so patterns all season long.


jeffc October 21st, 2006 12:02 AM

failures
 

"Larry L" wrote in message
.. .

I have no clue why, it DOES look cool to me, and my brain is about trout
sized.


ha ha



edventures October 21st, 2006 09:34 AM

failures
 

Larry L wrote:
It's pretty easy to share/ get others to share successes at the vise ....
patterns that produce.

But, as I clean out my boxes at the end of a season, and prepare to restock
them, I note some real failures ...patterns that I thought "should" work but
that failed to impress the trout.

We can clearly learn from and make use of other's successes, but we can also
learn from efforts that didn't work out

So, one glaring example of failure in my boxes last season was any effort I
made to incorporate "Ice Dub" Being a typical fly tying sucker, I
bought several colors of this stuff and tried it on a variety of patterns
where it seemed to make sense. None worked well, and the only one that
wasn't a total waste of hook and time was a Troth PT nymph with the real
peacock replaced with "peacock" Ice Dub. Even this pattern is well
outfished by the real deal, however.

Any attempt I made to use this product for trailing shucks, emerger bodies,
or other things where it looks damn good "in the vise" left the fish
laughing in their lies or running for cover, in the cases of the more timid
creatures. I don't think I caught a single fish on a fly using this ultra
reflective stuff, with the exception noted above, and I tried it in several
pattern variations and on several waters.

I have no clue why, it DOES look cool to me, and my brain is about trout
sized. I have several bags of Ice Dub that are now in the garbage can. I
could afford to travel and fish another month each year if I wasn't such a
sucker at fly shops G

your words ring true,of trout
-but the reflective quailities are just the ticket for bass and bream flies

- what I like to call my practice fish ,they must have smaller than
trout sized brains.
some of these flies look bad in the vise but the fish love um up
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chas October 23rd, 2006 12:37 AM

failures
 
"Larry L" wrote:
It's pretty easy to share/ get others to share successes at the vise ....
patterns that produce.

..snip...

So, one glaring example of failure in my boxes last season was any effort I
made to incorporate "Ice Dub"


Possibly a larger target is in order. I used a neat little fly tied on a #2
glow bug hook with purple ice dub and pink thread to hook my biggest steelhead
ever. He stole the fly after a while, but he was in the 20+ pound range. I
also caught a couple chinook this spring on that pattern, they were 12-15
pounds. I did try it on trout, and not even sea-run cutthroat would take it.

Go figure...

Chas
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Ladyfish November 15th, 2006 01:30 PM

failures
 

"Larry L" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
It's pretty easy to share/ get others to share successes at the vise ....
patterns that produce.

But, as I clean out my boxes at the end of a season, and prepare to
restock them, I note some real failures ...patterns that I thought
"should" work but that failed to impress the trout.

We can clearly learn from and make use of other's successes, but we can
also learn from efforts that didn't work out

So, one glaring example of failure in my boxes last season was any effort
I made to incorporate "Ice Dub" Being a typical fly tying sucker, I
bought several colors of this stuff and tried it on a variety of patterns
where it seemed to make sense. None worked well, and the only one that
wasn't a total waste of hook and time was a Troth PT nymph with the real
peacock replaced with "peacock" Ice Dub. Even this pattern is well
outfished by the real deal, however.

Any attempt I made to use this product for trailing shucks, emerger
bodies, or other things where it looks damn good "in the vise" left the
fish laughing in their lies or running for cover, in the cases of the more
timid creatures. I don't think I caught a single fish on a fly using
this ultra reflective stuff, with the exception noted above, and I tried
it in several pattern variations and on several waters.

I have no clue why, it DOES look cool to me, and my brain is about trout
sized. I have several bags of Ice Dub that are now in the garbage can.
I could afford to travel and fish another month each year if I wasn't such
a sucker at fly shops G


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Hello Larry,
Unlike you I was quite happy adding a little ice dub to hare when tying
flies and caught fish with them. But I use very few of it and always added
to other stuff (not on its own).
Ladyfish (From France)





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