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mdk77 January 21st, 2007 05:02 PM

Newbie advice needed
 
My son and I are going to try fly fishing. We have purchased the
Cabela's Three Forks rod that comes with the Prestige Plus reel in a
6-weight with a WF floating line. I've been reading everywhere about
how important the line quality is. Since we're newbies with "starter
outfits" are we ok with the line that comes with this combo, or would
we be better off upgrading the line? We could afford to upgrade the
line to something better if it made a difference. If not, then we
won't bother. Thanks in advance for your help.


jeff January 21st, 2007 05:11 PM

Newbie advice needed
 
mdk77 wrote:
My son and I are going to try fly fishing. We have purchased the
Cabela's Three Forks rod that comes with the Prestige Plus reel in a
6-weight with a WF floating line. I've been reading everywhere about
how important the line quality is. Since we're newbies with "starter
outfits" are we ok with the line that comes with this combo, or would
we be better off upgrading the line? We could afford to upgrade the
line to something better if it made a difference. If not, then we
won't bother. Thanks in advance for your help.


upgrade the line... the line they send is awful.

jeff

Joel *DFD* January 22nd, 2007 05:51 AM

Newbie advice needed
 

jeff wrote:
mdk77 wrote:
My son and I are going to try fly fishing. We have purchased the
Cabela's Three Forks rod that comes with the Prestige Plus reel in a
6-weight with a WF floating line. I've been reading everywhere about
how important the line quality is. Since we're newbies with "starter
outfits" are we ok with the line that comes with this combo, or would
we be better off upgrading the line? We could afford to upgrade the
line to something better if it made a difference. If not, then we
won't bother. Thanks in advance for your help.


upgrade the line... the line they send is awful.

jeff


My 2¢... fish with it first. See if you like flyfishing. Then
upgrade.
Joel


jeff January 22nd, 2007 01:40 PM

Newbie advice needed
 
Joel *DFD* wrote:

jeff wrote:

mdk77 wrote:

My son and I are going to try fly fishing. We have purchased the
Cabela's Three Forks rod that comes with the Prestige Plus reel in a
6-weight with a WF floating line. I've been reading everywhere about
how important the line quality is. Since we're newbies with "starter
outfits" are we ok with the line that comes with this combo, or would
we be better off upgrading the line? We could afford to upgrade the
line to something better if it made a difference. If not, then we
won't bother. Thanks in advance for your help.


upgrade the line... the line they send is awful.

jeff



My 2¢... fish with it first. See if you like flyfishing. Then
upgrade.
Joel


my 1 cent - the line will affect the experience... the few extra bucks
to upgrade the line are worth the improvement in the experience. trust
me...the line is crap. even i could tell the difference in its quality
and its affect on casting, presentation. upgrade the line...

mdk77 January 22nd, 2007 05:50 PM

Newbie advice needed
 
jeff wrote:
Joel *DFD* wrote:

jeff wrote:

mdk77 wrote:

My son and I are going to try fly fishing. We have purchased the
Cabela's Three Forks rod that comes with the Prestige Plus reel in a
6-weight with a WF floating line. I've been reading everywhere about
how important the line quality is. Since we're newbies with "starter
outfits" are we ok with the line that comes with this combo, or would
we be better off upgrading the line? We could afford to upgrade the
line to something better if it made a difference. If not, then we
won't bother. Thanks in advance for your help.


upgrade the line... the line they send is awful.

jeff



My 2¢... fish with it first. See if you like flyfishing. Then
upgrade.
Joel


my 1 cent - the line will affect the experience... the few extra bucks
to upgrade the line are worth the improvement in the experience. trust
me...the line is crap. even i could tell the difference in its quality
and its affect on casting, presentation. upgrade the line...


What would you recommend for a "moderate action" rod like the 3 Forks?


Tom Nakashima January 22nd, 2007 06:17 PM

Newbie advice needed
 

"mdk77" wrote in message
oups.com...
My son and I are going to try fly fishing. We have purchased the
Cabela's Three Forks rod that comes with the Prestige Plus reel in a
6-weight with a WF floating line. I've been reading everywhere about
how important the line quality is. Since we're newbies with "starter
outfits" are we ok with the line that comes with this combo, or would
we be better off upgrading the line? We could afford to upgrade the
line to something better if it made a difference. If not, then we
won't bother. Thanks in advance for your help.


I believe the Prestige Plus WF floating line is good enough. There are
rumors Cortland makes the line.
If you decide you enjoy fly-fishing, you could upgrade to a better line and
keep the Prestige Plus for practicing
your cast. I use Orvis Wonderline DT (yellow) to practice. I purchased the
line by using the $25.oo off coupon. Yellow is good to see the line roll
out. Practicing will wear the line out. The good thing about DT (double
taper) is you can reverse it. I use Scientific Anglers Trout DT (willow
color) when fishing.
fwiw,
-tom



mdk77 January 22nd, 2007 06:48 PM

Newbie advice needed
 

Tom Nakashima wrote:
"mdk77" wrote in message
oups.com...
My son and I are going to try fly fishing. We have purchased the
Cabela's Three Forks rod that comes with the Prestige Plus reel in a
6-weight with a WF floating line. I've been reading everywhere about
how important the line quality is. Since we're newbies with "starter
outfits" are we ok with the line that comes with this combo, or would
we be better off upgrading the line? We could afford to upgrade the
line to something better if it made a difference. If not, then we
won't bother. Thanks in advance for your help.


I believe the Prestige Plus WF floating line is good enough. There are
rumors Cortland makes the line.
If you decide you enjoy fly-fishing, you could upgrade to a better line and
keep the Prestige Plus for practicing
your cast. I use Orvis Wonderline DT (yellow) to practice. I purchased the
line by using the $25.oo off coupon. Yellow is good to see the line roll
out. Practicing will wear the line out. The good thing about DT (double
taper) is you can reverse it. I use Scientific Anglers Trout DT (willow
color) when fishing.
fwiw,
-tom


Thank you Tom. That sounds like good advice.


Kevin Vang January 22nd, 2007 07:07 PM

Newbie advice needed
 
In article . com,
says...

What would you recommend for a "moderate action" rod like the 3 Forks?



The Scientific Anglers "Concept" is a nice casting line which sells for
under $20. You'll never find it at fly shop though; you'll have to take
your chances at discount stores, where you might even find it for under
$10. I've used the dt-5-f and really liked it, I can't comment on the
weight forward lines. It's a 60 ft. line, where most lines are 90 ft.,
if that makes a difference to you. (If you're a beginning caster, it
won't make any difference for years, trust me.) It's a bright yellow
line, so it's easy to see, which is especially important when
you are learning.

Kevin

--
reply to: kevin dot vang at minotstateu dot edu

Tom Nakashima January 22nd, 2007 07:39 PM

Newbie advice needed
 

"Kevin Vang" wrote in message
t...
In article . com,
says...

What would you recommend for a "moderate action" rod like the 3 Forks?



The Scientific Anglers "Concept" is a nice casting line which sells for
under $20. You'll never find it at fly shop though; you'll have to take
your chances at discount stores, where you might even find it for under
$10. I've used the dt-5-f and really liked it, I can't comment on the
weight forward lines. It's a 60 ft. line, where most lines are 90 ft.,
if that makes a difference to you. (If you're a beginning caster, it
won't make any difference for years, trust me.) It's a bright yellow
line, so it's easy to see, which is especially important when
you are learning.

Kevin

--
reply to: kevin dot vang at minotstateu dot edu


Great tip Kevin,
I just did a search and found the SA Concept in a sinking line.
I'm buying the 5wt.
http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/...LL-220410-0000
fwiw,
-tom



Larry L January 22nd, 2007 09:05 PM

Newbie advice needed
 

"Kevin Vang" wrote

It's a 60 ft. line, where most lines are 90 ft.,
if that makes a difference to you. (If you're a beginning caster, it
won't make any difference for years, trust me.) It's a bright yellow
line, so it's easy to see, which is especially important when
you are learning.



I use one on my 6wt nymphing rod , it does fine ... ( I think, the thing is
yellow and 60ft )


Also, when I get to feeling depressed about my skills I take out the rod and
'practice' with it .... after a few tries I'm "casting the entire line" and
just being able to say that does wonders for my ego G


Hehe, I was reading a book by a "famous fly fishing author" last night and
interspersed within his claims that run close to " I invented fly fishing"
are comments about 90++ foot casts to rising fish on the Henry's Fork ....
talk about ego, this guy has one G FWIW, I've fished 'around' many
rather famous anglers on the Fork and without exception they were making far
more effort to approach the fish closely than to make epic casts .... the
intricate currents make long casts a recipe for failure. THE best ( most
consistent catcher ) angler I know that is a Fork regular probably averages
less than 25 foot, angler to fish for his casts. One thing I've grown to
accept is that "published author" and ability to do it are NOT always
related ... I've known this for years about dog training where I've been
paid to train dogs by several people that were "published" on the topic but
could barely 'train' a hungry dog to eat, themselves .... the last few
years as my FFing experience grows and I have reason/ occasion to compare
what I see with what is written I've begun to seriously question many FFing
authors in this area of writing vs doing.

Opps, done it again ... strayed from my original reason for posting .... my
"stream of consciousness" often overflows it's banks flooding innocent
bystanders in mucky, muddy, goo.




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