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Da[_2_] June 1st, 2007 06:40 PM

Adams by Da
 
Today, I tied the classic fly pattern adams.
Here is the picture http://picasaweb.google.com/Dan.versacorp.cn/Adams
Hook: Mustad 539 12# (same as Dai-Riki 320 12#)
Thread: grey
Wing: grey hackle tips tied over the body
Tail: grey and brown hackle barbs
Hackle: grey and brown

This one is the eighth adams I tied today. I have found the wing is a
little longer. I have tried my best to use the smallest rooster neck
feather. Could you guys tell me any other things I should pay
attention to? Thanks


Bob Weinberger June 1st, 2007 07:45 PM

Adams by Da
 
"Da" wrote in message
oups.com...
Today, I tied the classic fly pattern adams.
Here is the picture http://picasaweb.google.com/Dan.versacorp.cn/Adams
Hook: Mustad 539 12# (same as Dai-Riki 320 12#)
Thread: grey
Wing: grey hackle tips tied over the body
Tail: grey and brown hackle barbs
Hackle: grey and brown

This one is the eighth adams I tied today. I have found the wing is a
little longer. I have tried my best to use the smallest rooster neck
feather. Could you guys tell me any other things I should pay
attention to? Thanks


Other than the wing needing to be shorter by about 1/3, its not a bad
looking tie. With wings that long, the fly will tend to spin when being
cast, and will likely twist the leader. Although the body of an Adams is
usually done with grey dubbing (commonly muskrat underfur) the body material
you used looks passable.

When seeking good hackle feathers. check out the whole skin Seek skins that
include the neck right up onto the head. The smallest stiffest hackle
feathers will be found on and near the head.

Bob Weinberger La Grande, OR



daytripper June 1st, 2007 08:18 PM

Adams by Da
 
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:04:27 -0700, rw
wrote:

Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Da" wrote in message
oups.com...

Today, I tied the classic fly pattern adams.
Here is the picture http://picasaweb.google.com/Dan.versacorp.cn/Adams
Hook: Mustad 539 12# (same as Dai-Riki 320 12#)
Thread: grey
Wing: grey hackle tips tied over the body
Tail: grey and brown hackle barbs
Hackle: grey and brown

This one is the eighth adams I tied today. I have found the wing is a
little longer. I have tried my best to use the smallest rooster neck
feather. Could you guys tell me any other things I should pay
attention to? Thanks



Other than the wing needing to be shorter by about 1/3, its not a bad
looking tie. With wings that long, the fly will tend to spin when being
cast, and will likely twist the leader. Although the body of an Adams is
usually done with grey dubbing (commonly muskrat underfur) the body material
you used looks passable.


IMO, wings on an Adams are a cosmetic anachronism -- the fish don't see
them. They're a PITA to tie in, and they can cause the tippet to twist,
as you point out. At best, they make it easier for the angler to see the
fly on the water, but a hi-vis antron post would work better.

Is an Adams ties sans wings still an Adams?


Soitenly! It's a "Spent And Left For Dead Adams"....

/daytripper

sandy June 1st, 2007 08:34 PM

Adams by Da
 
Da wrote:
Today, I tied the classic fly pattern adams.

Good looking fly DA. The wings and tail might
be a bit long. Here are two other ties to compare with:

http://montana-riverboats.com/Pages/...rks/Adams.html

http://montana-riverboats.com/Pages/...ve/Adams2.html

rw June 1st, 2007 09:04 PM

Adams by Da
 
Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Da" wrote in message
oups.com...

Today, I tied the classic fly pattern adams.
Here is the picture http://picasaweb.google.com/Dan.versacorp.cn/Adams
Hook: Mustad 539 12# (same as Dai-Riki 320 12#)
Thread: grey
Wing: grey hackle tips tied over the body
Tail: grey and brown hackle barbs
Hackle: grey and brown

This one is the eighth adams I tied today. I have found the wing is a
little longer. I have tried my best to use the smallest rooster neck
feather. Could you guys tell me any other things I should pay
attention to? Thanks



Other than the wing needing to be shorter by about 1/3, its not a bad
looking tie. With wings that long, the fly will tend to spin when being
cast, and will likely twist the leader. Although the body of an Adams is
usually done with grey dubbing (commonly muskrat underfur) the body material
you used looks passable.


IMO, wings on an Adams are a cosmetic anachronism -- the fish don't see
them. They're a PITA to tie in, and they can cause the tippet to twist,
as you point out. At best, they make it easier for the angler to see the
fly on the water, but a hi-vis antron post would work better.

Is an Adams ties sans wings still an Adams?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Opus--Mark H. Bowen June 1st, 2007 11:38 PM

Adams by Da
 

"Da" wrote in message
oups.com...
Today, I tied the classic fly pattern adams.
Here is the picture http://picasaweb.google.com/Dan.versacorp.cn/Adams
Hook: Mustad 539 12# (same as Dai-Riki 320 12#)
Thread: grey
Wing: grey hackle tips tied over the body
Tail: grey and brown hackle barbs
Hackle: grey and brown

This one is the eighth adams I tied today. I have found the wing is a
little longer. I have tried my best to use the smallest rooster neck
feather. Could you guys tell me any other things I should pay
attention to? Thanks


I'm not a very accomplished tier and my Adams looks a great deal like your.

However, it catches trout just like most all of the flyz I have tied.

If your interest is in impressing fly tiers, you'll tie flyz to
specifications. If your interest is in catching trout or other fish, you'll
keep on tying what works for you.

Op




Opus--Mark H. Bowen June 1st, 2007 11:39 PM

Adams by Da
 

"Opus--Mark H. Bowen" wrote in message
...

I'm not a very accomplished tier and my Adams looks a great deal like
your.

However, it catches trout just like most all of the flyz I have tied.

If your interest is in impressing fly tiers, you'll tie flyz to
specifications. If your interest is in catching trout or other fish,
you'll keep on tying what works for you.

Op


Oh yeah, I like your tie, btw!

Op



rw June 2nd, 2007 07:04 AM

Adams by Da
 
daytripper wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:04:27 -0700, rw
wrote:

Is an Adams ties sans wings still an Adams?



Soitenly! It's a "Spent And Left For Dead Adams"....

/daytripper


The next time I see an Adam's hatch I'll think about that.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Tim J. June 3rd, 2007 01:24 AM

Adams by Da
 

rw typed:
Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Da" wrote in message
oups.com...

Today, I tied the classic fly pattern adams.
Here is the picture
http://picasaweb.google.com/Dan.versacorp.cn/Adams Hook: Mustad 539
12# (same as Dai-Riki 320 12#) Thread: grey
Wing: grey hackle tips tied over the body
Tail: grey and brown hackle barbs
Hackle: grey and brown

This one is the eighth adams I tied today. I have found the wing
is a little longer. I have tried my best to use the smallest
rooster neck feather. Could you guys tell me any other things I
should pay attention to? Thanks



Other than the wing needing to be shorter by about 1/3, its not a bad
looking tie. With wings that long, the fly will tend to spin when
being cast, and will likely twist the leader. Although the body of
an Adams is usually done with grey dubbing (commonly muskrat
underfur) the body material you used looks passable.


IMO, wings on an Adams are a cosmetic anachronism -- the fish don't
see them. They're a PITA to tie in, and they can cause the tippet to
twist, as you point out. At best, they make it easier for the angler
to see the fly on the water, but a hi-vis antron post would work
better.
Is an Adams ties sans wings still an Adams?


I don't know, but that's the only way I tie them now - no wings. I
haven't seen any different reaction from the fish.
--
TL,
Tim
---------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/



Niteawk June 5th, 2007 02:05 PM

Adams by Da
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Da" wrote in message
oups.com...

Today, I tied the classic fly pattern adams.
Here is the picture http://picasaweb.google.com/Dan.versacorp.cn/Adams
Hook: Mustad 539 12# (same as Dai-Riki 320 12#)
Thread: grey
Wing: grey hackle tips tied over the body
Tail: grey and brown hackle barbs
Hackle: grey and brown

This one is the eighth adams I tied today. I have found the wing is a
little longer. I have tried my best to use the smallest rooster neck
feather. Could you guys tell me any other things I should pay
attention to? Thanks



Other than the wing needing to be shorter by about 1/3, its not a bad
looking tie. With wings that long, the fly will tend to spin when being
cast, and will likely twist the leader. Although the body of an Adams is
usually done with grey dubbing (commonly muskrat underfur) the body
material you used looks passable.


IMO, wings on an Adams are a cosmetic anachronism -- the fish don't see
them. They're a PITA to tie in, and they can cause the tippet to twist, as
you point out. At best, they make it easier for the angler to see the fly
on the water, but a hi-vis antron post would work better.

Is an Adams ties sans wings still an Adams?


Not quite, it becomes an uncle Fester ;)




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