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John B July 31st, 2007 03:04 AM

O.K., I need some help!
 
A few months ago I was catching all the bass I wanted to in my
""little"" lake. As temps went up, and stayed in the 90's, I have to
work really hard to catch em now :).

I asked my kid for some advice....he said, "Dad, you have to take the
good with the bad, it will cool off in the fall.", Then he laughed and
said just do it deeper and slower.

But, he doesn't know everything....just what I taught him grin.

So, how 'bout some "hot" weather tips for a
shallow lake that is strictly bank fishing.

Thanks....John K


Rodney Long July 31st, 2007 03:43 AM

O.K., I need some help!
 
John B wrote:
A few months ago I was catching all the bass I wanted to in my
""little"" lake. As temps went up, and stayed in the 90's, I have to
work really hard to catch em now :).

I asked my kid for some advice....he said, "Dad, you have to take the
good with the bad, it will cool off in the fall.", Then he laughed and
said just do it deeper and slower.

But, he doesn't know everything....just what I taught him grin.

So, how 'bout some "hot" weather tips for a
shallow lake that is strictly bank fishing.

Thanks....John K


John pull out those Wiggle rigs I sent you (I did send you some didn't
I ?) and down size your lures, fish the lures in one spot for a couple
of min. before moving, in this weather those bass MOSEY over to a free
meal they don't have to chase

--
Rodney Long
SpecTastic Wiggle rig
Formally the Mojo Wiggle rig
http://spectastictackle.com/

Bob La Londe July 31st, 2007 03:43 PM

O.K., I need some help!
 
On Jul 30, 7:04 pm, (John B) wrote:
A few months ago I was catching all the bass I wanted to in my
""little"" lake. As temps went up, and stayed in the 90's, I have to
work really hard to catch em now :).

I asked my kid for some advice....he said, "Dad, you have to take the
good with the bad, it will cool off in the fall.", Then he laughed and
said just do it deeper and slower.

But, he doesn't know everything....just what I taught him grin.

So, how 'bout some "hot" weather tips for a
shallow lake that is strictly bank fishing.

Thanks....John K


Well... I am guessing that you need to do some ninja bass fishing
with your float tube, a sounder, and a gps to locate submerged cover
and structure. Then you can spend more time casting directly to the
high percentage spots when pounding the bank later.

Some places you may be able to intuit by studying the the water and
the surrounding bank. Walk all the way around the lake a couple times
without a fishing rod in your hand. It just might pay off for you.
Look for places that would indicate naturally deeper structure or
cover near deeper water. Grass beds that go out away on a point and
then suddenly disappears. A fallen tree that seems like it is
sticking up a bit on the shallow side may indicate a drop off. Any
noticeable water runoff, rivlet, dry wash, etc will indicate a shallow
flat with a ridge just beyon and then slightly deeper water beyond the
ridge.

If I recall you already use spinning tackle so you should be able to
cast small baits as far as is practical to reach your targets. You
may need to downsize line to maximize this.

Another thing you can try is to look for water temps. My dad used to
have a thermometer he would lower down on a line, leave at a certain
depth for a few minutes and then reel in very fast to check the water
temp at that depth. It was specifically made for this. You could
possibley locate a channel or ditch or deep hole that way, by finding
cooler water. It would be slow time consuming work to do it that way,
but it could be done. If you decide to try this make it a seperate
outing from your visual walk study I mentioned above. I think its
better to initially focus on one type of study at a time, and then put
the pieces together and combining and learning from both on later
explorations.


Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



Ronnie July 31st, 2007 06:30 PM

O.K., I need some help!
 
On Jul 30, 10:04 pm, (John B) wrote:
A few months ago I was catching all the bass I wanted to in my
""little"" lake. As temps went up, and stayed in the 90's, I have to
work really hard to catch em now :).

I asked my kid for some advice....he said, "Dad, you have to take the
good with the bad, it will cool off in the fall.", Then he laughed and
said just do it deeper and slower.

But, he doesn't know everything....just what I taught him grin.

So, how 'bout some "hot" weather tips for a
shallow lake that is strictly bank fishing.

Thanks....John K


One word - fishatnight.

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com


Charlie Johns August 1st, 2007 04:33 AM

O.K., I need some help!
 

"Rodney Long" wrote in message
...
John B wrote:
A few months ago I was catching all the bass I wanted to in my
""little"" lake. As temps went up, and stayed in the 90's, I have to
work really hard to catch em now :).

I asked my kid for some advice....he said, "Dad, you have to take the
good with the bad, it will cool off in the fall.", Then he laughed and
said just do it deeper and slower. But, he doesn't know
everything....just what I taught him grin.

So, how 'bout some "hot" weather tips for a shallow lake that is strictly
bank fishing.

Thanks....John K


John pull out those Wiggle rigs I sent you (I did send you some didn't I
?) and down size your lures, fish the lures in one spot for a couple of
min. before moving, in this weather those bass MOSEY over to a free meal
they don't have to chase

--
Rodney Long
SpecTastic Wiggle rig
Formally the Mojo Wiggle rig
http://spectastictackle.com/

he probably didn't get them. I didn't after two tries, but it's no problem
i'm just a lurker who likes to fish and showed and interest in a different
way to do it



Rodney Long August 1st, 2007 02:41 PM

O.K., I need some help!
 
Charlie Johns wrote:
"Rodney Long" wrote in message
...
John B wrote:
A few months ago I was catching all the bass I wanted to in my
""little"" lake. As temps went up, and stayed in the 90's, I have to
work really hard to catch em now :).

I asked my kid for some advice....he said, "Dad, you have to take the
good with the bad, it will cool off in the fall.", Then he laughed and
said just do it deeper and slower. But, he doesn't know
everything....just what I taught him grin.

So, how 'bout some "hot" weather tips for a shallow lake that is strictly
bank fishing.

Thanks....John K

John pull out those Wiggle rigs I sent you (I did send you some didn't I
?) and down size your lures, fish the lures in one spot for a couple of
min. before moving, in this weather those bass MOSEY over to a free meal
they don't have to chase

--
Rodney Long
SpecTastic Wiggle rig
Formally the Mojo Wiggle rig
http://spectastictackle.com/

he probably didn't get them. I didn't after two tries, but it's no problem
i'm just a lurker who likes to fish and showed and interest in a different
way to do it




Ok I've had a couple who didn't after they were mailed, I was trying to
save a few cents and mailed them in a regular envelope with a stamp on
them,, email me your address again, we will take care of that little problem

--
Rodney Long
SpecTastic Wiggle rig
Formally the Mojo Wiggle rig
http://spectastictackle.com/

John B August 1st, 2007 03:01 PM

O.K., I need some help!
 

One word - fishatnight.

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com
=======
You are right Ronnie....but the "bugs", and "crawly Critters" come out
at night too! :)

John K


John B August 1st, 2007 03:02 PM

O.K., I need some help!
 
Thanks Bob....some real good tips!!!!!

John K

=========
Well... I am guessing that you need to do some ninja bass fishing with
your float tube, a sounder, and a gps to locate submerged cover and
structure. Then you can spend more time casting directly to the high
percentage spots when pounding the bank later.
Some places you may be able to intuit by studying the the water and the
surrounding bank. Walk all the way around the lake a couple times
without a fishing rod in your hand. It just might pay off for you. Look
for places that would indicate naturally deeper structure or cover near
deeper water. Grass beds that go out away on a point and then suddenly
disappears. A fallen tree that seems like it is sticking up a bit on the
shallow side may indicate a drop off. Any noticeable water runoff,
rivlet, dry wash, etc will indicate a shallow flat with a ridge just
beyon and then slightly deeper water beyond the ridge.
If I recall you already use spinning tackle so you should be able to
cast small baits as far as is practical to reach your targets. You may
need to downsize line to maximize this.
Another thing you can try is to look for water temps. My dad used to
have a thermometer he would lower down on a line, leave at a certain
depth for a few minutes and then reel in very fast to check the water
temp at that depth. It was specifically made for this. You could
possibley locate a channel or ditch or deep hole that way, by finding
cooler water. It would be slow time consuming work to do it that way,
but it could be done. If you decide to try this make it a seperate
outing from your visual walk study I mentioned above. I think its better
to initially focus on one type of study at a time, and then put the
pieces together and combining and learning from both on later
explorations.
Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com


Bob La Londe August 1st, 2007 03:13 PM

O.K., I need some help!
 
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 30, 7:04 pm, (John B) wrote:
A few months ago I was catching all the bass I wanted to in my
""little"" lake. As temps went up, and stayed in the 90's, I have to
work really hard to catch em now :).

I asked my kid for some advice....he said, "Dad, you have to take the
good with the bad, it will cool off in the fall.", Then he laughed and
said just do it deeper and slower.

But, he doesn't know everything....just what I taught him grin.

So, how 'bout some "hot" weather tips for a
shallow lake that is strictly bank fishing.

Thanks....John K


Well... I am guessing that you need to do some ninja bass fishing
with your float tube, a sounder, and a gps to locate submerged cover
and structure. Then you can spend more time casting directly to the
high percentage spots when pounding the bank later.



One of those portable castable transducer things from Humminbird might work
too. Sketcha rough map of the pond and take a walk casting your transducer
out and reeling it in while taking notes on your sketch.




Some places you may be able to intuit by studying the the water and
the surrounding bank. Walk all the way around the lake a couple times
without a fishing rod in your hand. It just might pay off for you.
Look for places that would indicate naturally deeper structure or
cover near deeper water. Grass beds that go out away on a point and
then suddenly disappears. A fallen tree that seems like it is
sticking up a bit on the shallow side may indicate a drop off. Any
noticeable water runoff, rivlet, dry wash, etc will indicate a shallow
flat with a ridge just beyon and then slightly deeper water beyond the
ridge.

If I recall you already use spinning tackle so you should be able to
cast small baits as far as is practical to reach your targets. You
may need to downsize line to maximize this.

Another thing you can try is to look for water temps. My dad used to
have a thermometer he would lower down on a line, leave at a certain
depth for a few minutes and then reel in very fast to check the water
temp at that depth. It was specifically made for this. You could
possibley locate a channel or ditch or deep hole that way, by finding
cooler water. It would be slow time consuming work to do it that way,
but it could be done. If you decide to try this make it a seperate
outing from your visual walk study I mentioned above. I think its
better to initially focus on one type of study at a time, and then put
the pieces together and combining and learning from both on later
explorations.


Bob La Londe
http://www.YumaBassMan.com





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Bob La Londe August 1st, 2007 03:37 PM

O.K., I need some help!
 
On Aug 1, 7:02 am, (John B) wrote:
Thanks Bob....some real good tips!!!!!



Also, while I don't like Humminbird as a company they have a product
that might be useful for you. Their little castable transducer that
transmits to a wrist watch type screen. You can cast it out and watch
your wrist screen as you reel it in to learn a little more about the
bottom structure. Its not as good as an inexpensive portable that you
can use on a boat or float tube, but it does work when stuck on the
bank.






John K

=========
Well... I am guessing that you need to do some ninja bass fishing with
your float tube, a sounder, and a gps to locate submerged cover and
structure. Then you can spend more time casting directly to the high
percentage spots when pounding the bank later.
Some places you may be able to intuit by studying the the water and the
surrounding bank. Walk all the way around the lake a couple times
without a fishing rod in your hand. It just might pay off for you. Look
for places that would indicate naturally deeper structure or cover near
deeper water. Grass beds that go out away on a point and then suddenly
disappears. A fallen tree that seems like it is sticking up a bit on the
shallow side may indicate a drop off. Any noticeable water runoff,
rivlet, dry wash, etc will indicate a shallow flat with a ridge just
beyon and then slightly deeper water beyond the ridge.
If I recall you already use spinning tackle so you should be able to
cast small baits as far as is practical to reach your targets. You may
need to downsize line to maximize this.
Another thing you can try is to look for water temps. My dad used to
have a thermometer he would lower down on a line, leave at a certain
depth for a few minutes and then reel in very fast to check the water
temp at that depth. It was specifically made for this. You could
possibley locate a channel or ditch or deep hole that way, by finding
cooler water. It would be slow time consuming work to do it that way,
but it could be done. If you decide to try this make it a seperate
outing from your visual walk study I mentioned above. I think its better
to initially focus on one type of study at a time, and then put the
pieces together and combining and learning from both on later
explorations.
Bob La Londehttp://www.YumaBassMan.com





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