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Roger Ohlund November 2nd, 2003 11:59 AM

Sage 389-4 Light Line questions
 
Some questions,

Anyone know if Sage has released the old Sage 389-4 LL rod under the name of
Classic?
I've seen at least two references to this on Ebay where they are on sale,
but couldn't find anything about it on the Sage web site.

Ebay quote: "Every year Sage picks one of it's "stand out" models from years
gone by, and produces a special, limited edition run, of collector grade
rods, to commemorate a real all-star in their line-up.
There were only 500 of these limited-edition, serial numbered rods produced"

Ebay quote II: "Sage reintroduced this "Classic" series rod to commemorate
the beloved LL series that disappeared almost 8 years ago!"

Having a 490-4 LL and just loving it, I'm very interested in getting one of
those 389-4 LL.
IMHO it is one of the best graphite dry fly rods ever made for small stream
fishing.

Can it be that someone is trying to sell the VPS Light Series under the
pretention that it is the 389-4 LL rod?
Why couldn't I find anything on this at the Sage web site?

/ Roger
Daytime engineer
Lifetime flyfisherman
If you feel like it, visit http://biphome.spray.se/angler/ for info on
flyfishing in northern Sweden, Lapland



Vaughan Hurry November 2nd, 2003 12:16 PM

Sage 389-4 Light Line questions
 
Roger,

Why the hell would you want to buy a Sage for small stream fishing when you
own that little Tom Moran? (I think that is what it was, my memory is
clouded by whiskey fumes....)

Vaughan




Roger Ohlund November 2nd, 2003 12:48 PM

Sage 389-4 Light Line questions
 

"Vaughan Hurry" wrote in message
...
Roger,

Why the hell would you want to buy a Sage for small stream fishing when

you
own that little Tom Moran? (I think that is what it was, my memory is
clouded by whiskey fumes....)

Vaughan


Well, the Tom Moran is a delicious little rod which has just about all the
casting qualities one can wish for.
However, since it was quite expensive and also quite rare I'm trying not to
use it too often. Some might reason that it was built to be used and that it
should be used, but if used sparingly it will last longer.
A graphite rod on the other hand is more of a use it every day rod.
You never got to try it, did you?
Perhaps if you hadn't fished with the Garrisson replica all evening you
might have had some time to try the Moran rod. Or was it so that I was
insensitive enough not to offer it?
Anyway, you should consider this Sage as a replacement for you busted Thomas
& Thomas.

/Roger



Vaughan Hurry November 2nd, 2003 01:11 PM

Sage 389-4 Light Line questions
 
Perhaps if you hadn't fished with the Garrisson replica all evening you
might have had some time to try the Moran rod.


Do I detect a note of frustration here? Perhaps I "borrowed" the Garrison
for too long...........:-)

Or was it so that I was
insensitive enough not to offer it?


No, you did offer, I just got distracted by the Garrison copy. Even for a
putz like me that was a lovely rod to cast, at distances further than 30' or
so anyway. And as for replacing the T&T with a Sage? I'm not even going
there. Besides, I will have a new 8'6" 6wt from Cal Anderberg by spring and
this should keep my happy for a while.

Vaughan



Guyz-N-Flyz November 2nd, 2003 01:29 PM

Sage 389-4 Light Line questions
 

"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message
...

However, since it was quite expensive and also quite rare I'm trying not

to
use it too often. Some might reason that it was built to be used and that

it
should be used, but if used sparingly it will last longer.
/Roger


If "some" want to fish a Tom Moran (not familiar with the rod-crafter,
myself), then "some" ought to purchase their own Tom Moran and fish it to
their heart's desire. Your desire to fish *your* Tom Moran when and if you
choose is matter that should concern no one else--unless, of course they own
a share of your Tom Moran.

Op --I have several priceless EagleClaw rods that I will never fish again
:~^)--





Roger Ohlund November 2nd, 2003 01:41 PM

Sage 389-4 Light Line questions
 

"Vaughan Hurry" wrote in message
...
Perhaps if you hadn't fished with the Garrisson replica all evening you
might have had some time to try the Moran rod.


Do I detect a note of frustration here? Perhaps I "borrowed" the Garrison
for too long...........:-)


Hah, it was a long test run, wasn't it?

Or was it so that I was
insensitive enough not to offer it?


No, you did offer, I just got distracted by the Garrison copy. Even for a
putz like me that was a lovely rod to cast, at distances further than 30'

or
so anyway.


I'm glad you gave it a chance. It does tend to take a while to get used to,
but once there and one's hooked.

And as for replacing the T&T with a Sage? I'm not even going
there.


Ah, but this is not like the other Sage rods that you build your opinion on.
Not the very stiff, totally insensitive, good for nothing (at least not
fishing) casting machines ;-)

Besides, I will have a new 8'6" 6wt from Cal Anderberg by spring and
this should keep my happy for a while.


There's nothing like a hexagonal piece of bamboo with a reel attached to it
when it comes to keeping a fly fisherman happy for a while. Is this another
of Jennifer Ohlsson's rod series?, or just the individually fitted cane rod
that only an assistant professor; or whatever it was, can afford? ;-)

/Roger



Roger Ohlund November 2nd, 2003 01:50 PM

Sage 389-4 Light Line questions
 

"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message
...

"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message
...

However, since it was quite expensive and also quite rare I'm trying not

to
use it too often. Some might reason that it was built to be used and

that
it
should be used, but if used sparingly it will last longer.
/Roger


If "some" want to fish a Tom Moran (not familiar with the rod-crafter,
myself), then "some" ought to purchase their own Tom Moran and fish it to
their heart's desire. Your desire to fish *your* Tom Moran when and if

you
choose is matter that should concern no one else--unless, of course they

own
a share of your Tom Moran.

Op --I have several priceless EagleClaw rods that I will never fish again
:~^)--


Irony? Is there such a smiley for irony??

/Roger
I have several rods that I won't be fishing again too, only I don't think
priceless is description enough for those.



Guyz-N-Flyz November 2nd, 2003 01:53 PM

Sage 389-4 Light Line questions
 

"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message
...
Irony? Is there such a smiley for irony??

/Roger
I have several rods that I won't be fishing again too, only I don't think
priceless is description enough for those.


Apparently, you are familiar with the pricelessness of the EagleClaw, but
most if not all Amerikan flyfisherpersons know that Walmart carries that
brand. Thus, the reason I will never fish then again. I figure they will
be collectors items in a coupla million years, and when they are, I'll be
rollin' in the dough!

Op --low-classed gear whore--



Wayne Knight November 3rd, 2003 04:10 AM

Sage 389-4 Light Line questions
 

"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message
...
Some questions,

Anyone know if Sage has released the old Sage 389-4 LL rod under the name

of
Classic?


Yes they did, Walter posted on it sometime last April/May timeframe.



Vaughan Hurry November 3rd, 2003 08:39 AM

Sage 389-4 Light Line questions
 
There's nothing like a hexagonal piece of bamboo with a reel attached to
it
when it comes to keeping a fly fisherman happy for a while. Is this

another
of Jennifer Ohlsson's rod series


This will be a personalized one. The Jennifer Olsson series has a lovely 8'
5/6wt rod loosely based on the Ritz/Young type tapers and I very nearly
bought one. But I decided I wanted something with a bit more power to handle
the wind up in the sand ridge country, so Carl offered to build the 8'6" 6wt
for me. It wont actually cost very much more than the insurance from the
broken T&T as he charges quite a bit less than Jennifer's rods cost, even
though he builds her rods as well. Of course, the detailing will not be so
flash on the new rod as on the commercial models but he assures me it will
fish as well. We will see next spring!

Vaughan




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