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Tom Nakashima September 26th, 2007 07:44 PM

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 
I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom



rb608 September 26th, 2007 08:01 PM

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 
On Sep 26, 2:44 pm, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?


Before it's heartbreaking demise, my 9'-9" 8 wt. was a salmon-catching
cannon. It could punch a long roll cast or a single-handed spey cast
with ease. Accuracy at distance was also easier, I thought. I loved
that rod. Mending? Yeah, I thought it was better, but I'm not sure
that was any more than attitude. I'm not sure the extra 9" really
made much difference there. Downside? It was definitely heavier, and
the slower pace took me a while to get used to.

Summary, the big rod is dead; but I bought another 9'-6", and I'm not
sorry.


George Cleveland September 26th, 2007 08:18 PM

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:44:15 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom



I'm on my second 10' 7 wt.. I bought the first to give me more control
casting while sitting in a canoe. It rapidly became my favorite bass
rod whether I was sitting or standing. I really noticed the difference
when I broke it a few months ago and fished a couple 9 footers I still
have. They just didn't handle the bigger smallie flies as well as the
10' did. So I bought another one a month ago and really can't imagine
not using it for most of my bass fishing.


g.c.

Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 26th, 2007 08:46 PM

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 
Tom Nakashima wrote:
I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?


I have Thomas & Thomas XL 10' 7wt. It's a sweet casting steelhead
rod and a joy to use from a canoe. The extra foot really makes a
difference when you're sitting or kneeling in a canoe and yes, it
will mend better than a 9 ft when standing in the stream.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[email protected] September 26th, 2007 09:06 PM

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 
On Sep 26, 11:44 am, "Tom Nakashima" wrote:
I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom


While not a 7wt, I use a 10'6" 3wt as my primary trout
fishing rod. It's great for mending and since it's a very
slow action and 10'6" it's loads of fun once you hook a
fish.
- Ken


Lazarus Cooke September 26th, 2007 09:15 PM

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 
In article , Tom Nakashima
wrote:

I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom

I've owned and used a 10' 6-7 Bruce and Walker boat rod for many (15?)
years. I don't use it that often - it's made for a particular Irish
speciality - fishing the wet fly off a boat. I quite like it, because
it has a very slow, lazy, easy action, which is quite right for the
particular circumstances of fishing on the very big lakes you get on
the west of Ireland. The length is not for long casting - you're often
working the wet fly quite close to the boat - , but for line control,
which is important in these circumstances.

But the fact is that while I could use it on rivers, I don't. If I'm
fishing for salmon on spate rivers such as the Finn in Donegal, I'd use
either a 9' or a 9' 6" Hardy (6/7) with an extended butt, or, more
often, a lovely 12' double handed rod made by Bruce and Walker (also
6/7) - the Silver Stream (long discontinued, and I mention its name
with reluctance, as I'm looking for another on ebay - I fish on
different islands and don't like carrying a two-piece 12' rod on
airplanes).


While talking about rod length, I've recently had a 'road to Damascus'
(if that isn't politically inflammatory suggestion at the moment on
roff) conversion away from the 9' rod.

I've often argued for 8' to 9' rods, even on small streams, for the dry
fly - again, line control. My Sage 3-8-9 is still probably my
favorite.

But a week or so ago I went to the Itchen, an English chalk stream
(something like a spring creek), with a little cane 6' 3" cane rod
that was made for me maybe 20 years ago by Lance Nicholson (long dead)
of Dulverton on Exmoor in England.

When I first bought the rod I didn't like it - it didn't seem to do
anything I wanted- and it's been sitting in storage for years. But I'd
tried it out on the street outside my flat in one of the most
disadvantaged parts of london (Brixton - the unfashionable (peckham)
end) and it seemed sweet, and was easy to strap onto my bike, so I took
it.

I loved it, and it caught me several fine fish, including my biggest
ever grayling (two and a half pounds, with a big strong deep back,
which is very big for these English waters) with no problems at all. It
will be my rod of first choice in future.

I suppose what's happened is that my casting has got less ambitious,
more relaxed (& therefore better!) in the intervening years.

My advice to learners, and more often to myself, when casting is going
wrong, is not to try harder, but to try *less* hard. *I*, at least,
have found it very useful advice.

Lazarus

daytripper September 26th, 2007 09:52 PM

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:44:15 -0700, "Tom Nakashima"
wrote:

I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom


One of my favorite big-feesh rods is a custom rolled Loomis GLX 10' 9weight.
It is wonderfully light for its strength and length, and it's the proverbial
howitzer of a rod. I've been using it when the opportunity arises for around
10 years now (iirc) and it has stood up to a lot of salt water (ab)use.

I also used it on the Salmon River last fall and its reach made mending
precise and easy, and it stood up to what I still think was the biggest salmon
we hooked on the trip (it was damn near as long as Paul and had to be nearing
50 pounds)...

/daytripper (it'll be making the same trip in a couple of weeks)

W. D. Grey September 26th, 2007 10:14 PM

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 
In article , Tom Nakashima
writes
I was wondering if anyone here owns and cast a 10' 7wt. fly rod?
I've tried a 9'6" and thought that was a bit long. Most of my fly-rods
are under 9'. I was wondering about the casting control of the 10'er.
Heard the extra length was good for mending characteristics.
Comments?
-tom



I used to fish with a 10'-6" Kunnan 7/9 weight rod for still water
fishing. It was a very fine rod but as time went by and I got older I
became more used to using my 9' -6" Kunnan which was aslo 7/9 weight.
neither rod was too heavy to handle and could produce a good long cast.

My next purchase was a 9' 9" Daiwa - again 7/9 weight.

Nowadays I have become so used to fishing with a John Wilson 9" , 8 wt
rod that the others aren't comfortable any more.

Basically it depends on what sort of fishing you want to do. For long
casts and not too much emphasis on presentation then go for a long rod
of 7/9 wt. I use a wt forward #8 line on my rods.

I notice from many postings on ROFF that you guys frequently use lines
as light as #4 or 5# something that we don't use too much in the UK.

BTW for my river fishing I use an 8'-6" rod with a #6 DT ot #7 WSFline.
--
Bill Grey


[email protected] September 26th, 2007 10:19 PM

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 
On Sep 26, 1:46 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

rod and a joy to use from a canoe. The extra foot really makes a
difference when you're sitting or kneeling in a canoe and yes, it


C'mon you sissie, just stand up :-)

Jon.


Ken Fortenberry[_2_] September 26th, 2007 11:28 PM

Anyone Cast a 10' ?
 
wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
rod and a joy to use from a canoe. The extra foot really makes a
difference when you're sitting or kneeling in a canoe and yes, it


C'mon you sissie, just stand up :-)


I'm working on doing just that with my 18' Grumman.

She'll have a 2hp Honda four stroke and a trolling motor
which can be mounted for either solo or two-person fishing,
a casting deck amidships, a removable seat behind the center
thwart for solo use and outrigger pontoons on both sides so
even a big, clumsy lummox like myself can stand on the casting
deck. And all this will be easily and quickly removable so as
to convert this lean, mean, musky-chasing machine back into my
grandpa's heirloom canoe with nary a hint, besides a few extra
holes in the gunwales, that she's been "modified".

I've already got the 2hp, the pontoons and the removable center
seat, all I need now is to set up the casting deck and get the
trolling motor and battery. Hell, I'm even thinking so long as
I have a battery in the boat I might get a fish finder too and
mount the transducer on the trolling motor.

--
Ken Fortenberry


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