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http://bismarcktribune.com/articles/2003/11/06/news/state/sta01.txt

Just to give you some back story here, the Army Corps of Engineers
manages the five dams on the Missouri River according to a manual
written back in the 1950's, which places the highest priority on
serving the barge shipping industry on the lower reaches of the river.
Said shipping industry currently consists of two (2) barge operators,
which employ on the order of 30 employees at near minimum wages,
that ships about 0.25% of the farm crops grown in the downstream
states, and generates about $7 million in economic activity.

The reservoirs upstream support an $87 million sport fishing and
recreation industry. Fort Peck reservoir in Montana and Lake Sakakawea
in North Dakota are both currently more than 20 feet below normal
pool level, after being drawn down in the summers of 2002 and 2003
in order to maintain sufficient flow for the barge shipping seasons.
The Corps of Engineers spent $8 million extending the boat ramps
just on Fort Peck reservoir in the summer of 2002, due to low water
levels.

The Corps of Engineers is currently under a court order to revise the
operating manual in order to conform to the Endangered Species Act,
with a December deadline. The Corps has previously been held in
contempt of court for failure to do so.

Sorry for going Muskie on you all, but Bush II is the worst
administration ever.

Kevin,
who, oddly enough, doesn't feel much better for venting.

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"Kevin Vang" wrote in message
...

http://bismarcktribune.com/articles/2003/11/06/news/state/sta01.txt

Just to give you some back story here, the Army Corps of Engineers
....................
Sorry for going Muskie on you all, but Bush II is the worst
administration ever.

Kevin,
who, oddly enough, doesn't feel much better for venting.

While not being particularly enamored of Bush II either, I'm not sure this
administration is accountable for the problem. - the COE seems to have the
rep of doing what they want on the watersheds- As an example, the Kootenai
has problems with regards to sturgen reproduction vs flood, irrigation needs
downstream. As I understand it, the COE has consistently refused to allow
adequate flows to promote a succesful spawn of the white sturgeon in spite
of court orders to the contrary. This has nothing to do with the
administration- its a COE knows more than you do problem- and they aren't
elected.

jh

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On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:45:10 -0600, Kevin Vang wrote:


http://bismarcktribune.com/articles/2003/11/06/news/state/sta01.txt

Just to give you some back story here, the Army Corps of Engineers
manages the five dams on the Missouri River according to a manual
written back in the 1950's, which places the highest priority on
serving the barge shipping industry on the lower reaches of the river.
Said shipping industry currently consists of two (2) barge operators,
which employ on the order of 30 employees at near minimum wages,
that ships about 0.25% of the farm crops grown in the downstream
states, and generates about $7 million in economic activity.

The reservoirs upstream support an $87 million sport fishing and
recreation industry. Fort Peck reservoir in Montana and Lake Sakakawea
in North Dakota are both currently more than 20 feet below normal
pool level, after being drawn down in the summers of 2002 and 2003
in order to maintain sufficient flow for the barge shipping seasons.
The Corps of Engineers spent $8 million extending the boat ramps
just on Fort Peck reservoir in the summer of 2002, due to low water
levels.

The Corps of Engineers is currently under a court order to revise the
operating manual in order to conform to the Endangered Species Act,
with a December deadline. The Corps has previously been held in
contempt of court for failure to do so.

Sorry for going Muskie on you all, but Bush II is the worst
administration ever.

Kevin,
who, oddly enough, doesn't feel much better for venting.


Well then this won't hurt too much.

http://www.enn.com/news/2003-11-06/s_10156.asp

The Democrats have the Greens to keep them on focus concerning the environment.
The same pressure could be brought by hunters and fishers on the Republicans.
But to date we (meaning the hunters and fishers) haven't even attempted to
counter act the extreme bias that the Republicans currently in charge of the
party bring to conservation issues. Until outdoors folks threaten to abandon the
GOP, the Reaganite wing of the GOP will keep on with their attacks on every
thing from the Clean Water Act to public lands policies.

g.c.

Who doesn't mean to imply that he is a GOPer, Democrat, Green or any other party
in existence. Which of course means that I am out of every loop there is.

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Kevin Vang wrote:

....snip...

I have to say you failed miserably at being a Muskie:

No cross posting

Just a link to the article.

Your own words about the problem

It relates directly to fishing

Chas
P.S. How about sending me your snail mail address so I can send you
the CD I made of our pike fishing?

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"George Cleveland" wrote in message The
Democrats have the Greens to keep them on focus concerning the environment.
The same pressure could be brought by hunters and fishers on the
Republicans.
But to date we (meaning the hunters and fishers) haven't even attempted to
counter act the extreme bias that the Republicans currently in charge of
the
party bring to conservation issues. Until outdoors folks threaten to
abandon the
GOP, the Reaganite wing of the GOP will keep on with their attacks on
every
thing from the Clean Water Act to public lands policies.


That will be the day. Face it: Conservatives are co-opted at this point,
compromised and corrupted from their slavish excuse making for the
Pinnochio Bush show, And the right-wing has lost any claim to the moral,
constitutional or patriotic high ground.

Dave
War, War, War ,War
Bush and Cheney in 2004

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"David Snedeker" wrote in message
...

"George Cleveland" wrote in message The
Democrats have the Greens to keep them on focus concerning the
environment.
The same pressure could be brought by hunters and fishers on the
Republicans.
But to date we (meaning the hunters and fishers) haven't even attempted
to
counter act the extreme bias that the Republicans currently in charge of
the
party bring to conservation issues. Until outdoors folks threaten to
abandon the
GOP, the Reaganite wing of the GOP will keep on with their attacks on
every
thing from the Clean Water Act to public lands policies.


That will be the day. Face it: Conservatives are co-opted at this point,
compromised and corrupted from their slavish excuse making for the
Pinnochio Bush show, And the right-wing has lost any claim to the moral,
constitutional or patriotic high ground.

Dave
War, War, War ,War
Bush and Cheney in 2004

Thus leaving The Only Rational (Not to Mention Loving and All-Embracing)
Centrist in America to carry on single-handedly in the eternal existential
struggle against the Swarthy Minions of Ideological Darkness! If you see
only one psychopathology this year, ladies and gentlemen, SEE THIS ONE!
It's got it all.....the foam.....the spittle.....the throbbing forehead
vein......the indiscriminate slaughter visited upon immense geographical
areas. An unreserved two thumbs up!

Wolfgang
aaaaayyyy!