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runsrealfast[_2_] October 31st, 2007 03:57 PM

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 
Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John


ray October 31st, 2007 07:02 PM

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:59 -0700, runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John


Good questions. My understanding, from the news reports, is that they are
planting them in an area which was not part of their native habitat - I
wonder if we'll ever learn!!


Dave LaCourse October 31st, 2007 10:50 PM

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:02:19 -0600, ray wrote:

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:59 -0700, runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John


Good questions. My understanding, from the news reports, is that they are
planting them in an area which was not part of their native habitat - I
wonder if we'll ever learn!!


The sturgeon has always been in that part of the Snake as well as the
Columbia and just about all of the west coast rivers. The late George
Gerhke once fished for them in Hells Canyon. So, it IS part of their
native habitat. They continue to fish for them today. They coexist
with the salmon and trout, and have never been a problem. They may
get as far as the Henrys Fork, but they have no way of getting past
the dam.



Calif Bill November 1st, 2007 02:35 AM

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

"ray" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:59 -0700, runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John


Good questions. My understanding, from the news reports, is that they are
planting them in an area which was not part of their native habitat - I
wonder if we'll ever learn!!


The largest white sturgeon ever caught was from the Snake river. They do
not affect the trout population from what I see. The Pit River in
California may still have sturgeon. And the Kootanei river has them from
Montana to Kootanai lake. All good trout areas.



ray November 1st, 2007 04:14 AM

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:50:46 -0400, Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:02:19 -0600, ray wrote:

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:59 -0700, runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?

http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108

I'm just curious

John


Good questions. My understanding, from the news reports, is that they are
planting them in an area which was not part of their native habitat - I
wonder if we'll ever learn!!


The sturgeon has always been in that part of the Snake as well as the
Columbia and just about all of the west coast rivers. The late George


We're talking about the 'upper Snake river' here - near Idaho Falls. I was
not aware they were ever that far upstream - Shoshone Falls would be a
major impediment.

Gerhke once fished for them in Hells Canyon. So, it IS part of their
native habitat. They continue to fish for them today. They coexist
with the salmon and trout, and have never been a problem. They may
get as far as the Henrys Fork, but they have no way of getting past
the dam.



Julie November 1st, 2007 05:38 AM

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 
In article .com,
runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?


Sturgeon, from what I know of them from California, are anadronymous,
just like salmon and stealhead. If you snag a one of those 100 pound
fish that would surely affect your flyfishing. They dont take flies as
they first sense the food before eating. I would assume they would try
to travel to the ocean, will dams prevent them from making it to the
ocean?

Calif Bill November 1st, 2007 06:37 AM

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 

"Julie" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
runsrealfast wrote:

Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?


Sturgeon, from what I know of them from California, are anadronymous,
just like salmon and stealhead. If you snag a one of those 100 pound
fish that would surely affect your flyfishing. They dont take flies as
they first sense the food before eating. I would assume they would try
to travel to the ocean, will dams prevent them from making it to the
ocean?


There are several freshwater only varieties.



Dave LaCourse November 1st, 2007 12:12 PM

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:14:37 -0600, ray wrote:

We're talking about the 'upper Snake river' here - near Idaho Falls. I was
not aware they were ever that far upstream - Shoshone Falls would be a
major impediment.


Bottom line: They have coexisted in trout/salmon waters for
centuries. They will NOT impact trout fishing.



runsrealfast[_2_] November 1st, 2007 02:33 PM

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 
On Oct 31, 1:02 pm, ray wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:57:59 -0700, runsrealfast wrote:
Recently in Idaho Falls Id, the fish and game just planted a bunch of
white sturgeon. The question is do these fish travel far and should I
expect to see them moving up the Henrys fork and up into the Heise
area on the south fork? Also what will the affect be on fly fishing?


http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/apps/re...fm?NewsID=4108


I'm just curious


John


Good questions. My understanding, from the news reports, is that they are
planting them in an area which was not part of their native habitat - I
wonder if we'll ever learn!!


I was thinking that as well. The other thought was wont it be to cold
this far up north?

John


runsrealfast[_2_] November 1st, 2007 02:36 PM

White Sturgeon Planted in Snake River...
 
On Nov 1, 6:12 am, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:14:37 -0600, ray wrote:
We're talking about the 'upper Snake river' here - near Idaho Falls. I was
not aware they were ever that far upstream - Shoshone Falls would be a
major impediment.


Bottom line: They have coexisted in trout/salmon waters for
centuries. They will NOT impact trout fishing.


But the question still remains will they move up into the areas where
fishing is popular. We are talking about 20-30 miles of traveling plus
the water will drop in temperature a bit upstream. I doubt I would
ever land one on a fly, but can imagine maybe a smaller one going
after a streamer. They are known to feed on smaller fish.

John




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