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Scouts fly tying classes - Chosing the pattern
Hello again fly fishing gang.
I have picked up so many really good tips, how to and advice from this group and the bass fishing group by reading through posts, following links etc.. I really wanted to come back again when it was time for me to get some more opinions. I have gotten pretty good at tying quite a number of patterns, and lately have really grown to enjoy tying wire tandem flies. I also think I now have got a good handle on keeping my streamers upright and all.... Thanks again, I am now looking much more closely to my knots. I am going to get together with the local scout group and do a fly tying 101. The problem I am having is which pattern to have the scouts try for a starter pattern. Everyone seems to go for the ever present woolly bugger. I will probably graze this pattern, but I would like to go for something equally as effective, and as easy to learn, but a different than the norm. Any suggestions? I think I might go with a simple bucktail streamer, but would like to mix it up with some different patterns, maybe a nymph and an easy dry. I want to be able to offer the scout tying kits, or figure out how to raise a little cash to donate some kits. So material cost for the patterns I choose is an issue. Anyone can just throw chenile, herl, and a few feathers in a kit, but I want to put together kits with materials that the scouts will be seeing in the 101 or demonstration. Lloyd M The Fishin' Hole http://www.mainetackle.com |
Scouts fly tying classes - Chosing the pattern
On Nov 28, 1:33 pm, Sprattoo wrote:
Any suggestions? I think I might go with a simple bucktail streamer, The Black-nosed Dace is another good (and oft recommended) beginner pattern. If they're up to smaller stuff, the GRHE is easy enough. Joe F. |
Scouts fly tying classes - Chosing the pattern
On Nov 28, 10:33 am, Sprattoo wrote:
Hello again fly fishing gang. I have picked up so many really good tips, how to and advice from this group and the bass fishing group by reading through posts, following links etc.. I really wanted to come back again when it was time for me to get some more opinions. I have gotten pretty good at tying quite a number of patterns, and lately have really grown to enjoy tying wire tandem flies. I also think I now have got a good handle on keeping my streamers upright and all.... Thanks again, I am now looking much more closely to my knots. I am going to get together with the local scout group and do a fly tying 101. The problem I am having is which pattern to have the scouts try for a starter pattern. Everyone seems to go for the ever present woolly bugger. I will probably graze this pattern, but I would like to go for something equally as effective, and as easy to learn, but a different than the norm. Any suggestions? I think I might go with a simple bucktail streamer, but would like to mix it up with some different patterns, maybe a nymph and an easy dry. I want to be able to offer the scout tying kits, or figure out how to raise a little cash to donate some kits. So material cost for the patterns I choose is an issue. Anyone can just throw chenile, herl, and a few feathers in a kit, but I want to put together kits with materials that the scouts will be seeing in the 101 or demonstration. Lloyd M The Fishin' Holehttp://www.mainetackle.com I would suggest starting with the biggest hook you can find. I did the Boy Scout thing and started with an 8/0 or so "Shark Hook" i bought at the local marine supply place. You can show them the wraping techniques and how to wind turkey feathers etc on a hook. They have better eyesight than you will do the small things OK once they know what to do. |
Scouts fly tying classes - Chosing the pattern
"Sprattoo" wrote in message ... Any suggestions? I think I might go with a simple bucktail streamer, but would like to mix it up with some different patterns, maybe a nymph and an easy dry. I want to be able to offer the scout tying kits, or figure out how to raise a little cash to donate some kits. So material cost for the patterns I choose is an issue. Anyone can just throw chenile, herl, and a few feathers in a kit, but I want to put together kits with materials that the scouts will be seeing in the 101 or demonstration. You might have them tie a Renegade. Decent wet or dry and will give them some exposure to wrapping tinsel, peacock hearl and hackle. If you choose this fly, wrap the hearl around the tying thread to strengthen the wrap. Makes for a much more durable fly. JT |
Scouts fly tying classes - Chosing the pattern
On Nov 28, 2:14 pm, "JT" wrote:
"Sprattoo" wrote in message ... Any suggestions? I think I might go with a simple bucktail streamer, but would like to mix it up with some different patterns, maybe a nymph and an easy dry. I want to be able to offer the scout tying kits, or figure out how to raise a little cash to donate some kits. So material cost for the patterns I choose is an issue. Anyone can just throw chenile, herl, and a few feathers in a kit, but I want to put together kits with materials that the scouts will be seeing in the 101 or demonstration. You might have them tie a Renegade. Decent wet or dry and will give them some exposure to wrapping tinsel, peacock hearl and hackle. If you choose this fly, wrap the hearl around the tying thread to strengthen the wrap. Makes for a much more durable fly. JT We have always began our tying classes with either the Wooly Worm or Wooly Bugger. The pattern is so easy to tie that it pretty much guarantees success, which is important with beginners. Remember, most of these kids will need instruction on how to start the thread on the hook, so don't get too fancy. If you don't have access to a video camera and projector, then the suggestion that you use a very large hook for demonstration purposes is a good one, and don't start the kids with anything smaller than a #8. Also, use the strongest thread you have available, as broken thread will be your biggest problem. |
Scouts fly tying classes - Chosing the pattern
"Sprattoo" wrote in message ... Any suggestions?... Pass Lake: http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/recipe...e=FS2000&id=14 Relatively easy to tie, while offering a variety of techniques and materials, extremely durable, works wet or dry (pretty much at its own discretion), highly visible.....and VERY effective. And it comes with a photo and complete tying instructions! Huzzah! Wolfgang |
Scouts fly tying classes - Chosing the pattern
On 28 Nov, 19:33, Sprattoo wrote:
Best to start with a few simple techniques. If you have access to internet video, then these are useful for beginners; http://www.flyforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1470 I usually start beginners with a simple hackle pattern on a size 8 hook, and move on from there. For complete beginners, I think a woolly bugger is too complicated, and introduces too many techniques at once. TL MC |
Scouts fly tying classes - Chosing the pattern
Sprattoo a écrit :
I am going to get together with the local scout group and do a fly tying 101. The problem I am having is which pattern to have the scouts try for a starter pattern. Everyone seems to go for the ever present woolly bugger. For dry flies, any Lee Wulff pattern is easy and effective: a tail, a body, hair wing and hackle. My favorite, the Royal Wulff, might be a bit hard for beginner, but a white, brown or black Wulff is easy and effective in many sizes. To see something different a Prince Nymph our a Zug Bug are both easy and effective nymph and introduce them to wrapping peacock earl. Someone said it already, a video and a large screen are a must; plus you get to replay them again and again. Be sure, if you do this, to wear a plain coloured apron it will provide a uniform coloured backscreen to your tying. Green or blue are good colours to wear, anything that contrast with the materials. ;-) -- Hope to read you soon, Denis www.uqtr.ca/~lamyd You'll have to eat the SPAM to E-mail |
Scouts fly tying classes - Chosing the pattern
On Nov 28, 3:27 pm, Mike wrote:
For complete beginners, I think a woolly bugger is too complicated, and introduces too many techniques at once. I still remember being a newbie, and the wooly bugger definitely had a great "gee whiz"-to-difficulty ratio. It's only three materials, so you learn to tie stuff in order as well as three simple techniques; and it's a pretty cool result that even a bad one can catch fish. It's the kind of fly that will give you the confidence that maybe you *can* get the hang of this fly tying stuff. I don't know about kids at scouting age; but as an adult newbie, I thought it was an easy first fly. Joe F. |
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