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Adding rubber legs to nymphs. Any of you use these?
The other night I read about tying fine rubber legs to standard nymph
patterns,(like Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear, Fox Squirrel, etc). It would be easy to add legs to some of my nymph patterns, but do they really fish any better than the standard nymph patterns? Since I'm asking the above question, I might as well ask about adding a bead head to these patterns too. Does the bead make them any more effective? Thanks in advance for your advice. |
Adding rubber legs to nymphs. Any of you use these?
On Nov 29, 2:19 pm, mdk77 wrote:
The other night I read about tying fine rubber legs to standard nymph patterns,(like Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear, Fox Squirrel, etc). It would be easy to add legs to some of my nymph patterns, but do they really fish any better than the standard nymph patterns? Since I'm asking the above question, I might as well ask about adding a bead head to these patterns too. Does the bead make them any more effective? Thanks in advance for your advice. p.s. I was half-scared to post again after the "boiled giblet gravy leader war" that erupted the last time I posted here :-) Surely this is an easier question to answer... |
Adding rubber legs to nymphs. Any of you use these?
mdk77 wrote:
The other night I read about tying fine rubber legs to standard nymph patterns,(like Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear, Fox Squirrel, etc). It would be easy to add legs to some of my nymph patterns, but do they really fish any better than the standard nymph patterns? I doubt it. Look at an actual nymph. Does it look like it has rubber legs? No. This is something to catch fishermen, not fish. As an exception, rubber legs on a stonefly or salmonfly nymph look pretty good to my eye. Since I'm asking the above question, I might as well ask about adding a bead head to these patterns too. Does the bead make them any more effective? I don't like bead heads, either. They're only good, IMO, for adding weight. I'd rather add my own weight in the amount I want. Also, I want the nymph to float *above* the weight. That's why I like to use Frog's Fanny or the much cheaper hydrophobic Cabosil in the dubbing. I tie my nymphs in a minimalist style. YMMV. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
Adding rubber legs to nymphs. Any of you use these?
On Nov 29, 12:22 pm, mdk77 wrote:
On Nov 29, 2:19 pm, mdk77 wrote: The other night I read about tying fine rubber legs to standard nymph patterns,(like Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear, Fox Squirrel, etc). It would be easy to add legs to some of my nymph patterns, but do they really fish any better than the standard nymph patterns? Since I'm asking the above question, I might as well ask about adding a bead head to these patterns too. Does the bead make them any more effective? Thanks in advance for your advice. p.s. I was half-scared to post again after the "boiled giblet gravy leader war" that erupted the last time I posted here :-) Surely this is an easier question to answer... I vote yes. Don't know the exact pattern but I have some nymphs with rubber legs( with and without bead heads) that seem to work ( better in lakes it seems). Some have white legs some black. It may be that I fish them more and more attentively that makes them work better, but they work |
Adding rubber legs to nymphs. Any of you use these?
On Nov 29, 2:30 pm, rw wrote:
mdk77 wrote: The other night I read about tying fine rubber legs to standard nymph patterns,(like Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear, Fox Squirrel, etc). It would be easy to add legs to some of my nymph patterns, but do they really fish any better than the standard nymph patterns? I doubt it. Look at an actual nymph. Does it look like it has rubber legs? No. This is something to catch fishermen, not fish. That's one of the reasons I posted the question. They don't look like an actual nymph. But I wondered if this was one of those crazy things that fish go after, even though it doesn't resemble anything "real" in their world. Thanks. |
Adding rubber legs to nymphs. Any of you use these?
mdk77 wrote:
On Nov 29, 2:30 pm, rw wrote: mdk77 wrote: The other night I read about tying fine rubber legs to standard nymph patterns,(like Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear, Fox Squirrel, etc). It would be easy to add legs to some of my nymph patterns, but do they really fish any better than the standard nymph patterns? I doubt it. Look at an actual nymph. Does it look like it has rubber legs? No. This is something to catch fishermen, not fish. That's one of the reasons I posted the question. They don't look like an actual nymph. But I wondered if this was one of those crazy things that fish go after, even though it doesn't resemble anything "real" in their world. Thanks. I think that sometimes trout respond to a "super stimulus" -- something that exaggerates a natural feature. I just don't think that rubber legs on a nymph work that way. I may be wrong. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
Adding rubber legs to nymphs. Any of you use these?
"mdk77" wrote fish any better than the standard nymph patterns? Me answering a nymph question is pretty silly, but G I think it's probably true, given my VERY limited experience with rubber legged nymphs However, I'd restate it to "Internal motion increases effectiveness." Rubber legs are ONE way to achieve internal motion, but not, imho, the easiest or best way ... except maybe in very large flies. I don't like beadheads( their look) , but I use them because it's easy to see how much weight the fly has in it, something I like when sight nymphing. To my mind getting the fly ( damn near any pattern will usually work ) to the fish's level and having him notice it before you make so many attempts that he notices YOU and takes off is the "secret" of sight nymphing. I find this easier with a beadhead of known sink rate than with shot/ unweighted fly when I'm casting with the need for great accuracy, especially to fish holding mid -column or near the top ... bottom huggers are relatively hard to miss with "too much" weight. Fishing the water .... I generally use shot and an unweighted fly for the simple reason I think it "looks better" and I always want to be on the bottom. Again: I suk at nymphing and should probably be ignored. |
Adding rubber legs to nymphs. Any of you use these?
"mdk77" wrote in message ... The other night I read about tying fine rubber legs to standard nymph patterns,(like Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear, Fox Squirrel, etc). It would be easy to add legs to some of my nymph patterns, but do they really fish any better than the standard nymph patterns? Since I'm asking the above question, I might as well ask about adding a bead head to these patterns too. Does the bead make them any more effective? Personally on nymphs I don't like rubber legs, however add them to a Stonefly imitation and I think it makes the pattern much better. For whatever reason, I think the rubber legs add the gravy to the fly that push the fish to strike over a fly without. YMMV, JT |
Adding rubber legs to nymphs. Any of you use these?
rw wrote:
As an exception, rubber legs on a stonefly or salmonfly nymph look pretty good to my eye. Some good patterns have rubber legs. Bitch Creeks, rubber-legged stones. I think they are woirth it if you fish water that has lots of stoneflies. I don't like bead heads, either. They're only good, IMO, for adding weight. I'd rather add my own weight in the amount I want. Also, I want the nymph to float *above* the weight. That's why I like to use Frog's Fanny or the much cheaper hydrophobic Cabosil in the dubbing. I like bead heads. I use them a lot, especially as a dropper attached to dry fly. I tie my nymphs in a minimalist style. YMMV. I like to as well, but I don;t think that the bead heads or rubber legs overly complicate a pattern. Tim Lysyk |
Adding rubber legs to nymphs. Any of you use these?
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:19:51 -0800 (PST), mdk77
wrote: The other night I read about tying fine rubber legs to standard nymph patterns,(like Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear, Fox Squirrel, etc). It would be easy to add legs to some of my nymph patterns, but do they really fish any better than the standard nymph patterns? I don't think they add anything to the fly except more expense and another step in the tying recipe. Rubber legs tend to bend back, unlike the natural. Since I'm asking the above question, I might as well ask about adding a bead head to these patterns too. Does the bead make them any more effective? I do not use metal beads. I like to add my own weight to the leader/tippet and tune it for the conditions. I do, however, use very, very small glass beads to add sparkle and color to a couple of my ties. I'm not after weight, and they add very little. They do, however, enhance a couple of home ties that I use in Maine. But, I do have a couple of beadhead flies in my box simply because they have worked for me. Dave |
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