A depressing Christmas Gift
 

My wife gave me a set of pocket knives last night, I must have at least
30 pocket knives "left", I do loose them on a regular bases. For 15
years I sold knives as a hobby (I stopped over 10 years ago), selling
around 15,000 dollars worth a year, of every brand, so I know knives.

Well she gave me a set of Buck knives, three of them, in a tin box, then
she told me she paid $30.00 for the set,, I of course said that could
not be, that set should have cost a minimum of $100.00, I then closely
inspected the box,, in very small print I found "these knives are made
to "Buck" specifications in China"

It was like someone just shot my dog. Not her giving me the set of
knives,, but they had "Buck" on them . I would have been a thousand
times happier if the had "Chinese folders" on the box, and stamped on
the blades.

For a US company, known for it's quality, a knife you were proud to lend
to someone, so they knew you carried a BUCK as your everyday knife, to
now be a cheap, near slave labor produced knife,, well, is just
disappointing.

Of course these knives were bought in the China store, Wal-Mart

I just hope they still make Bucks in the US, the "real" Bucks sold in
sporting goods stores ?????????????
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A depressing Christmas Gift
 

In article , says...
My wife gave me a set of pocket knives last night, I must have at least
30 pocket knives "left", I do loose them on a regular bases. For 15
years I sold knives as a hobby (I stopped over 10 years ago), selling
around 15,000 dollars worth a year, of every brand, so I know knives.

Well she gave me a set of Buck knives, three of them, in a tin box, then
she told me she paid $30.00 for the set,, I of course said that could
not be, that set should have cost a minimum of $100.00, I then closely
inspected the box,, in very small print I found "these knives are made
to "Buck" specifications in China"

It was like someone just shot my dog. Not her giving me the set of
knives,, but they had "Buck" on them . I would have been a thousand
times happier if the had "Chinese folders" on the box, and stamped on
the blades.

For a US company, known for it's quality, a knife you were proud to lend
to someone, so they knew you carried a BUCK as your everyday knife, to
now be a cheap, near slave labor produced knife,, well, is just
disappointing.

Of course these knives were bought in the China store, Wal-Mart

I just hope they still make Bucks in the US, the "real" Bucks sold in
sporting goods stores ?????????????

They still tout their plant in Idaho:
http://www.buckknives.com/plant_tour.php

but they also use foreign manufacturers also:
"...we have also sought foreign manufacturing assistance with some
product models."

"An American flag signifies that the knife is manufactured
domestically."

http://www.buckknives.com/manufacturing.php

MM

A depressing Christmas Gift
 

Gerber is the same way. No longer lifetime and made in China. I was
going back to Buck but if they are China too, guess I'll go Case..
Greg


Rodney Long wrote:
My wife gave me a set of pocket knives last night, I must have at least
30 pocket knives "left", I do loose them on a regular bases. For 15
years I sold knives as a hobby (I stopped over 10 years ago), selling
around 15,000 dollars worth a year, of every brand, so I know knives.

Well she gave me a set of Buck knives, three of them, in a tin box, then
she told me she paid $30.00 for the set,, I of course said that could
not be, that set should have cost a minimum of $100.00, I then closely
inspected the box,, in very small print I found "these knives are made
to "Buck" specifications in China"

It was like someone just shot my dog. Not her giving me the set of
knives,, but they had "Buck" on them . I would have been a thousand
times happier if the had "Chinese folders" on the box, and stamped on
the blades.

For a US company, known for it's quality, a knife you were proud to lend
to someone, so they knew you carried a BUCK as your everyday knife, to
now be a cheap, near slave labor produced knife,, well, is just
disappointing.

Of course these knives were bought in the China store, Wal-Mart

I just hope they still make Bucks in the US, the "real" Bucks sold in
sporting goods stores ?????????????

A depressing Christmas Gift
 

In article ,
says...
Gerber is the same way. No longer lifetime and made in China. I was
going back to Buck but if they are China too, guess I'll go Case..
Greg

See my last post.
Some Bucks are USA made.

MM

OT: A depressing Christmas Gift
 

I would still be willing to bet that the parts are from China, or another
foreign place, but assembled in US. I don't think there's anything truly
100% US made anymore. It's sad. I used to look for items that said "Made
In USA", but somewhere, these things would still have China, Hong Kong,
Taiwan or something stamped on them. Anymore, I just look products over and
buy the best of the junk, what do you do?

Irony, I bought an American flag last year, and it had a sticker on it,
saying, "Product of Malaysia".

Doug

They still tout their plant in Idaho:
http://www.buckknives.com/plant_tour.php

but they also use foreign manufacturers also:
"...we have also sought foreign manufacturing assistance with some
product models."

"An American flag signifies that the knife is manufactured
domestically."

http://www.buckknives.com/manufacturing.php

MM

A depressing Christmas Gift
 

"Doug" wrote in message
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I would still be willing to bet that the parts are from China, or another
foreign place, but assembled in US. I don't think there's anything truly
100% US made anymore. It's sad. I used to look for items that said "Made
In USA", but somewhere, these things would still have China, Hong Kong,
Taiwan or something stamped on them. Anymore, I just look products over
and buy the best of the junk, what do you do?

Irony, I bought an American flag last year, and it had a sticker on it,
saying, "Product of Malaysia".

I know how you feel Doug, it does get depressing at times, but cheer up. I
know for a fact that Secret Weapon Lures are made in the U.S.A.!

And last February, I was talking with David Gray, the president of Ardent
Reels. He told me that all of their reels are 100% made in the U.S., right
down to the components. Now, are you willing to pay the prices that come
along with the tag "Made in the USA?"
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http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

OT: A depressing Christmas Gift
 

Oh yeah Steve, I'll pay the extra for the "Made In USA" stamp, always have,
and if I have a choice, I will now. Such as with my tools, all craftsman,
snap on, or Mac. My OLDER Mitchell reels, with my St. Croix or Loomis rods.
(I will admit that I do have an arsenal of Shimano reels though) I always
look at the tag before I buy, but it IS unfortunate that sometimes, you
don't have a choice. I stay away from Wal-Mart and Harbor Freight at ALL
costs. What I don't understand is how we can fuel the Chinese war machine
with importing as we do, and then complain how big of a threat they
are.....

So how's the health Steve? You frozen over up there yet? Got your ice
fishing gear out? You get a Half-Track conversion kit for your FastCat yet?
;)

Doug

I know how you feel Doug, it does get depressing at times, but cheer up.
I know for a fact that Secret Weapon Lures are made in the U.S.A.!

And last February, I was talking with David Gray, the president of Ardent
Reels. He told me that all of their reels are 100% made in the U.S.,
right down to the components. Now, are you willing to pay the prices that
come along with the tag "Made in the USA?"
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

A depressing Christmas Gift
 

"Doug" wrote in message
news:4cQcj.4020$nh7.2650@trnddc01...
Oh yeah Steve, I'll pay the extra for the "Made In USA" stamp, always
have, and if I have a choice, I will now. Such as with my tools, all
craftsman, snap on, or Mac. My OLDER Mitchell reels, with my St. Croix or
Loomis rods. (I will admit that I do have an arsenal of Shimano reels
though) I always look at the tag before I buy, but it IS unfortunate that
sometimes, you don't have a choice. I stay away from Wal-Mart and Harbor
Freight at ALL costs. What I don't understand is how we can fuel the
Chinese war machine with importing as we do, and then complain how big of
a threat they are.....

I too try to avoid Wal-Mart, and I've never bought anything from Harbor
Freight, but here in the northwoods, our shopping options are very limited.
Like you, I'd much rather buy U.S. made products when ever possible, but
sometimes that just doesn't work. Shimano for example makes a great product
and I was buying them long before I ever heard of Ardent Reels.


So how's the health Steve? You frozen over up there yet? Got your ice
fishing gear out? You get a Half-Track conversion kit for your FastCat
yet?

Oh, we've been froze over for a long time already. I'm beginning to hate my
snowblower, but it beats a shovel all to heck. The ice fishing gear is
still in mothballs, I'm not done hunting yet. The health is the same, some
days good, some days bad. Yesterday morning was a bad one, to the point I
almost called 911!
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

A depressing Christmas Gift
 

So how's the health Steve? You frozen over up there yet? Got your ice
fishing gear out? You get a Half-Track conversion kit for your FastCat
yet?

Oh, we've been froze over for a long time already. I'm beginning to hate
my snowblower, but it beats a shovel all to heck. The ice fishing gear is
still in mothballs, I'm not done hunting yet. The health is the same,
some days good, some days bad. Yesterday morning was a bad one, to the
point I almost called 911!

Oh yeah, I have an older Ford tractor with a blower on it, but can find
parts anymore for it, and it kept breaking down, so I parked it and bought
one of those self propelled jobbies with the 2 stage. It's a lot harder
with that than with the tractor. I might have to get on a first name basis
with the CNC shop here in town if the snow keeps up. With as much snow as
you guys get up there and with the health, you should look into a small
tractor with a blower? Sit and push buttons.....

Hopefully, it doesn't get to the point that you need to call 911 anytime
soon, lord willing. Personally, I think your heart is telling you to give
up hunting and to go fishing more, that's where your hearts really at. ;)

Have a good one Steve!

Doug

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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com