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[email protected] January 31st, 2008 05:04 PM

Elevating to a national park catching on
 
http://wedeserveapark.blogspot.com/2...tching-on.html

BJ Conner January 31st, 2008 05:31 PM

Elevating to a national park catching on
 
On Jan 31, 9:04*am, wrote:
http://wedeserveapark.blogspot.com/2...-national-park...


Great - another waste of money, that we don't have that our children
and their children can pay back. Silver Falls is a nice state park but
hardly in the same league with Yosmite, Crater Lake etc.
Ditto for Mt. St Helens. St Helens is pretty limited in what you can
do there. You can drive up and look at the mountain ( about 2 days
out of 5 ) or look at the inside of a cloud while trying to look at
the mountain. It wasn't that interesting before the mountain blew -
up, now there is even less access.
I would be in favor of St Helens if they would let people hike up to
and in the crater. The trouble with america today is we shield to
many people from Darwins Law. To many stupid people survive and breed.

Wolfgang January 31st, 2008 05:58 PM

Elevating to a national park catching on
 

"BJ Conner" wrote in message
...
On Jan 31, 9:04 am, wrote:
http://wedeserveapark.blogspot.com/2...-national-park...


Great - another waste of money, that we don't have that our children
and their children can pay back. Silver Falls is a nice state park but
hardly in the same league with Yosmite, Crater Lake etc.
Ditto for Mt. St Helens. St Helens is pretty limited in what you can
do there. You can drive up and look at the mountain ( about 2 days
out of 5 ) or look at the inside of a cloud while trying to look at
the mountain. It wasn't that interesting before the mountain blew -
up, now there is even less access.
I would be in favor of St Helens if they would let people hike up to
and in the crater. The trouble with america today is we shield to
many people from Darwins Law. To many stupid people survive and breed.


It does seem to be a bit of a waste. I mean, for the money it's going to
cost we could probably have a nice little war against a small village
somewhere in the world where everybody doesn't hate all Americans yet.

Wolfgang



[email protected] January 31st, 2008 06:42 PM

Elevating to a national park catching on
 
On Jan 31, 9:31 am, BJ Conner wrote:
On Jan 31, 9:04 am, wrote:

http://wedeserveapark.blogspot.com/2...-national-park...


Great - another waste of money, that we don't have that our children
and their children can pay back. Silver Falls is a nice state park but
hardly in the same league with Yosmite, Crater Lake etc.
Ditto for Mt. St Helens. St Helens is pretty limited in what you can
do there. You can drive up and look at the mountain ( about 2 days
out of 5 ) or look at the inside of a cloud while trying to look at
the mountain. It wasn't that interesting before the mountain blew -
up, now there is even less access.
I would be in favor of St Helens if they would let people hike up to
and in the crater. The trouble with america today is we shield to
many people from Darwins Law. To many stupid people survive and breed.


I don't really see the difference...except the feds seem to be more
inclined to charge admission.

For the record, you can hike to the top of Mt St Helens, you just
can't enter the crater. The best view of the crater is from the top
anyway.
- Ken

Tom Littleton January 31st, 2008 06:44 PM

Elevating to a national park catching on
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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I mean, for the money it's going to cost we could probably have a nice
little war against a small village somewhere in the world where everybody
doesn't hate all Americans yet.


in other words, someplace in Canada?
Tom



Tom Littleton January 31st, 2008 06:45 PM

Elevating to a national park catching on
 

" wrote in message
...
... The best view of the crater is from the top
anyway.
- Ken


the logic here is hard to argue with.
Tom



BJ Conner January 31st, 2008 07:12 PM

Elevating to a national park catching on
 
On Jan 31, 10:45*am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
" wrote in message

...

... *The best view of the crater is from the top
anyway.
* *- Ken


the logic here is hard to argue with.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Tom


Except when all you can see is the inside or bottom of a cloud, which
is quite often the case.

BJ Conner January 31st, 2008 07:38 PM

Elevating to a national park catching on
 
On Jan 31, 9:04*am, wrote:
http://wedeserveapark.blogspot.com/2...-national-park...



IF you want to spend money the Ice Age Floods Trail is a better deal.
The trail is a route throug a lot of geologic features created by the
Bretz floods. . Among other things they also carred the Willamette
Metorite from Canada where it landed to Oregon where it was
discovered. The plan is a collection of sites and interpritive
centers in Washington, Oregon, Idaho and Montana.
There are several good guide books out on the floods, they have
pictures and GPS coordinates of some pretty cool stuff. An 800 foot
high wall of water draining a lake the size of Lake Erie can create
some interesting rock piles. A lot more interesting that looking into
a rain cloud.
Trail Site
http://www.iafi.org/trail.html

rb608 January 31st, 2008 07:39 PM

Elevating to a national park catching on
 
On Jan 31, 1:42*pm, " wrote:
For the record, you can hike to the top of Mt St Helens, you just
can't enter the crater. *


Not that I'd want to; but out of curiosity, how would they stop you?
Is threat of arrest the primary deterrent?

Joe F.

Wolfgang January 31st, 2008 07:43 PM

Elevating to a national park catching on
 

"rb608" wrote in message
...
On Jan 31, 1:42 pm, " wrote:
For the record, you can hike to the top of Mt St Helens, you just
can't enter the crater.


Not that I'd want to; but out of curiosity, how would they stop you?
Is threat of arrest the primary deterrent?

The last time somebody entered the crater was May 18, 1980. Remember what
happened? These guys are SERIOUS! :(

Wolfgang
who, personally, thinks it was a tad excessive.




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