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Bayou Redfish
Well, against rdean's advice, but thanks anyway r, I've hired
a guide to take me and my wife kayaking in the bayou. I'm gonna fish for redfish and she is along for the paddle. This is a guided fishing trip, not just sightseeing, so I assume the guide will put me in the vicinity of fish. My question to roff, how does one go about catching a redfish on a fly rod in a Louisiana bayou on April 30th ? The guide recommends a 9wt., but floating, sink tip, full sink ? How about flies ? I know absolutely nothing about fly fishing for redfish. How about that, a virgin experience at my age. ;-) I'm looking forward to it. -- Ken Fortenberry |
Bayou Redfish
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:14:53 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: How about flies ? Spoon flies work well, but they're awkward to cast. Wear a hat. -- Charlie... http://www.chocphoto.com |
Bayou Redfish
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:14:53 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Well, against rdean's advice, but thanks anyway r, I've hired a guide to take me and my wife kayaking in the bayou. I'm gonna fish for redfish and she is along for the paddle. This is a guided fishing trip, not just sightseeing, so I assume the guide will put me in the vicinity of fish. My question to roff, how does one go about catching a redfish on a fly rod in a Louisiana bayou on April 30th ? The guide recommends a 9wt., but floating, sink tip, full sink ? How about flies ? I know absolutely nothing about fly fishing for redfish. How about that, a virgin experience at my age. ;-) I'm looking forward to it. Big (3/0 - 5/0) Clousers, Assassins/Mickey Finns, Lefty's Deceivers, etc. on a floater if you are going to _flyfish_ - IOW, you aren't interested in using a fly rod as quasi-casting rod. And I didn't advice against the fishing, only wasting money on a guide. And putting someone on fish this time of the year, assuming the weather is cooperating _at all_, is little more than saying, "Yo, boy, y'all see that there water..." TC, R |
Bayou Redfish
On Mar 28, 3:14*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: My question to roff, how does one go about catching a redfish on a fly rod in a Louisiana bayou on April 30th ? The guide recommends a 9wt., but floating, sink tip, full sink ? How about flies ? I know absolutely nothing about fly fishing for redfish. How about that, a virgin experience at my age. ;-) I'm looking forward to it. Personally I think a 9wt is a little heavy for redfish, my primary redfish from a boat rod is a 7wt and I use an 8wt while wading. IMO, Clousers and decievers are fine for searching casts or casting to cruising fish. But my limited experience is that crab and shrimp patterns work better on tailing fish which is the "classic" way of locating and casting to them. A quick google turned up this link for what its worth: http://www.flyfishusa.com/flies/02-s...er-redfish.htm For the most part floating lines are just fine but I always carry an intermediate and fast sink polyleader just in case. Good luck and have fun. I can send you a couple of crab/shrimp patterns to play with if you'd like. BTW, I used to attend the Jazz festival annually when I lived on the gulf coast but have not been in a decade or more. Any chane you can pick me up this year's poster (I used to collect them and still have some)? I will of course reimburse you. Wayne |
Bayou Redfish
Charlie Choc wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: How about flies ? Spoon flies work well, but they're awkward to cast. Wear a hat. Thanks Charlie. Those things do like look they're anything but aerodynamic. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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Bayou Redfish
Wayne Knight wrote:
On Mar 28, 3:14 pm, Ken Fortenberry wrote: My question to roff, how does one go about catching a redfish on a fly rod in a Louisiana bayou on April 30th ? The guide recommends a 9wt., but floating, sink tip, full sink ? How about flies ? I know absolutely nothing about fly fishing for redfish. How about that, a virgin experience at my age. ;-) I'm looking forward to it. Personally I think a 9wt is a little heavy for redfish, my primary redfish from a boat rod is a 7wt and I use an 8wt while wading. IMO, Clousers and decievers are fine for searching casts or casting to cruising fish. But my limited experience is that crab and shrimp patterns work better on tailing fish which is the "classic" way of locating and casting to them. A quick google turned up this link for what its worth: http://www.flyfishusa.com/flies/02-s...er-redfish.htm For the most part floating lines are just fine but I always carry an intermediate and fast sink polyleader just in case. Good luck and have fun. I can send you a couple of crab/shrimp patterns to play with if you'd like. BTW, I used to attend the Jazz festival annually when I lived on the gulf coast but have not been in a decade or more. Any chane you can pick me up this year's poster (I used to collect them and still have some)? I will of course reimburse you. Thanks Wayne. Yeah, a 9wt sounds like overkill for 10 to 12 pound fish but my 7wt is a 10' two piece (would be great in the kayak but a bitch on the train to Nawlins), I have no 8wt but I do already have a couple of 9wts. And that's what the guide recommends so what the hell. I'd be more than happy to pick up a Jazz Fest poster for you but you can get one yourself (and fill in the blanks in your collection) he http://www.art4now.com/store/index.asp -- Ken Fortenberry |
Bayou Redfish
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:40:06 -0700 (PDT), Wayne Knight
wrote: On Mar 28, 3:14*pm, Ken Fortenberry wrote: My question to roff, how does one go about catching a redfish on a fly rod in a Louisiana bayou on April 30th ? The guide recommends a 9wt., but floating, sink tip, full sink ? How about flies ? I know absolutely nothing about fly fishing for redfish. How about that, a virgin experience at my age. ;-) I'm looking forward to it. Personally I think a 9wt is a little heavy for redfish, my primary redfish from a boat rod is a 7wt and I use an 8wt while wading. I already tried that, Wayne, but hey, when you're getting advice from a guide who knows where redfish are in S. Louisiana, advice from folks who live or have lived there with lots of fishing experience just sorta come in a distant second... IMO, Clousers and decievers are fine for searching casts or casting to cruising fish. But my limited experience is that crab and shrimp patterns work better on tailing fish which is the "classic" way of locating and casting to them. Shrimp and crab are decent "specific purpose" patterns. FWIW and IMO, though, the "bait fish" types are adequate to great all-around, whereas the shrimp/crab types are more limited. IOW, if you're gonna travel "heavy," by all means take both types, but if you're gonna travel "light," a couple of each, Deceivers, Assassins/Mickeys, and Clousers are the ticket. Remember, these aren't 16s, 18s, 22s, these are 3/0-5/0s. And take at least 2 of each - 1 for you, one for any possible oyster beds, etc. A quick google turned up this link for what its worth: http://www.flyfishusa.com/flies/02-s...er-redfish.htm For the most part floating lines are just fine but I always carry an intermediate and fast sink polyleader just in case. Gear whore. Seriously, reasonable advice. I guess I'm more of the "a travel light" kinda guy on jaunts like this - you know, a couple of flies, 1 (ONE!) rod, reel, spool, vest, boat, vehicle, generator, TV, cell phone, GPS, camera, etc....leaves more room for gin, tonic, and ice... Good luck and have fun. I can send you a couple of crab/shrimp patterns to play with if you'd like. BTW, I used to attend the Jazz festival annually when I lived on the gulf coast but have not been in a decade or more. Any chane you can pick me up this year's poster (I used to collect them and still have some)? I will of course reimburse you. Oh, man, this has become its own, er, funkin' industry, both legit and otherwise. An official poster, unsigned, isn't cheap, and a signed one is REALLY ridiculous (IIRC, they were fetching over $800.00 last year, unframed). Then there's all the quasi-official ones. I'd suggest determining _exactly_ what you want and letting Ken and Kristine have a website/.jpg/something to see so they know exactly what you want. And as an aside, depending on which ones you have (such as a signed Rodrigue, etc.), you might wish to check into values and determine if you need insurance (seriously). TC, R Wayne |
Bayou Redfish
On Mar 28, 4:19*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Charlie Choc wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: How about flies ? Spoon flies work well, but they're awkward to cast. Wear a hat. Thanks Charlie. Those things do like look they're anything but aerodynamic. -- Ken Fortenberry These look interesting. Ever heard of using them on trout? Halfordian Golfer http://www.nwmangum.com/spoonfly/index.html |
Bayou Redfish
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:40:32 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: I'd be more than happy to pick up a Jazz Fest poster for you but you can get one yourself (and fill in the blanks in your collection) he http://www.art4now.com/store/index.asp Trust me on this one, guys - this (mail order, not necessarily this site, and FWIW, there are a lot of fakes floating around, esp. on places like Craigslist - get it from an official source) is by far and away the best way to do it. TC, R |
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