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Sportsmen Against Bush December 4th, 2003 09:04 AM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
Yellowstone National Park (ID,MT,WY)
Poacher Arrested Following Stand-Off


On November 22nd, rangers and special agents arrested Edward A.
Johnson, 31, of Livingston, Montana, following a citizen report of an
antelope poaching in progress in the Stevens Creek area of the park.
Ranger Doug Berringer and a park special agent were first to arrive on
scene and saw a vehicle matching the description of the suspect
vehicle attempting to leave the area. The vehicle was stopped and a
short stand-off ensued. According to the criminal complaint filed in
this case, Johnson was repeatedly ordered at gunpoint to keep his
hands in view and to get down on the ground. Johnson instead opted to
reach repeatedly and aggressively toward his waistband, then
reportedly told the rangers to shoot him. He was ultimately taken into
custody. A dead antelope and a rifle were discovered in the front seat
of the red Ford Bronco he was driving. Johnson was booked into the
Mammoth Hot Springs jail for violating the Lacey Act (poaching),
resisting and impeding federal officers, using a weapon in a national
park, operating a vehicle under the influence of alcohol, possession
of drug paraphernalia, and operating a vehicle off of designated park
roadways. A detention hearing was set for November 25th. The
investigation is continuing and the case is being further reviewed by
the United States Attorney's Office for the possible filing of
additional felony weapons charges. This was the sixth known wildlife
poaching case inside the park within the last two months.M
[Submitted by Chris Fors, Special Agent]

http://data2.itc.nps.gov/morningrepo...greportold.cfm

Jack W Clarkson December 5th, 2003 01:37 AM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
(Sportsmen Against Bush) wrote in message . com...
Yellowstone National Park (ID,MT,WY)
Poacher Arrested Following Stand-Off

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I would caution you that there is a amount of liability associated
with your post. There is nothing within the article that identifies
the perpertrator of this crime as a member of the Blue Ribbon
Coalition. The slander here is attributal to you personally. I for
one do not appreciate your attempts to demean a fine organization that
supports individual freedoms and public access to public lands.

Jack

Rick Clemons December 5th, 2003 04:46 AM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
In article ,
(Jack W Clarkson) wrote:

(Sportsmen Against Bush) wrote in message
. com...
Yellowstone National Park (ID,MT,WY)
Poacher Arrested Following Stand-Off

Snip

I would caution you that there is a amount of liability associated
with your post. There is nothing within the article that identifies
the perpertrator of this crime as a member of the Blue Ribbon
Coalition. The slander here is attributal to you personally. I for
one do not appreciate your attempts to demean a fine organization that
supports individual freedoms and public access to public lands.


And do those individual freedoms include poaching? How about shooting
weapons in national parks? Does your support of public access to public
lands include driving while intoxicated? Instead of threatening people,
why don't you find out whether Johnson is a member of BRC?

--
Rick Clemons

This is my email address, not a sign that I represent the university in any official capacity.

Jack W Clarkson December 5th, 2003 04:52 PM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
(Rick Clemons) wrote in message ...
In article ,
(Jack W Clarkson) wrote:

(Sportsmen Against Bush) wrote in message
. com...
Yellowstone National Park (ID,MT,WY)
Poacher Arrested Following Stand-Off

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The answer to your question is: Of course not!

I do not have to find out anything. There is nothing in the article
that
would indicate that the perpertrator is anything but a thoughtless and
reckless
individual. No tie in the BRC is mentioned in the article. Yor
response to my post is interesting.

You seem to be educated beyond your intelligence.

Jack

David Snedeker December 5th, 2003 07:49 PM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 

"Jack W Clarkson" wrote in message
om...
(Sportsmen Against Bush) wrote in message

. com...
Yellowstone National Park (ID,MT,WY)
Poacher Arrested Following Stand-Off

Snip

I would caution you that there is a amount of liability associated
with your post.


Horse pucky! That is exactly the kind of threat that folks familiar with the
shady operations of this deviously funded "Blueribbon" mouthpiece of mostly
foreign sno-mobile corporations have come to expect. Why don't you poaching
Aryan Nations loving assholes phone Tokyo for instructions instead of
threatening Americans? :-)))

Dave
Most BRC members are not aware of who controls the BRC



Rick Clemons December 6th, 2003 05:34 AM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
In article ,
(Jack W Clarkson) wrote:


The answer to your question is: Of course not!


I asked several questions. Do you say no to all of them?

I do not have to find out anything. There is nothing in the article
that
would indicate that the perpertrator is anything but a thoughtless and
reckless
individual. No tie in the BRC is mentioned in the article. Yor
response to my post is interesting.


Because the article did not mention an affiliation with the BRC, does not
mean that Johnson is not a member. The person who posted may have
knowledge of the affiliation, but I do not claim to know. Again, instead
of threatening people, and now insulting them, why don't you find out who
this guy is? Of course, you are right, because you do not have to find
out anything. But, if you want to argue with the person who posted the
original message, you might want to obtain some evidence.

You seem to be educated beyond your intelligence.


Hey Jack, what the hell does that mean?

--
Rick Clemons

This is my email address, not a sign that I represent the university in any official capacity.

[email protected] December 6th, 2003 06:41 AM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 23:34:28 -0600, (Rick Clemons)
wrote:

if you want to argue with the person who posted the
original message, you might want to obtain some evidence.


Not on the 'Net. The convention on the 'Net, as in many real life
areas, is that the person making a statement is the one who has to
provide the evidence. If I post that 2 + 2 = 5, it's not up to my
critics to provide evidence that I am incorrect. They can merely
state it to be contrary to general arithmetic. It is up to me to do
the proof of my statement. If I can't quickly pop up with a different
brand of math, _and_ apologize for not having mentioned it in my
original post, that proves 2 + 2 = 5, I'd best just slink off quietly
into the darkest corner of trolldom.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

Jack W Clarkson December 6th, 2003 10:38 PM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
"David Snedeker" wrote in message ...
"Jack W Clarkson" wrote in message
om...
(Sportsmen Against Bush) wrote in message

. com...
Yellowstone National Park (ID,MT,WY)
Poacher Arrested Following Stand-Off

Snip

I would caution you that there is a amount of liability associated
with your post.


Horse pucky! That is exactly the kind of threat that folks familiar with the
shady operations of this deviously funded "Blueribbon" mouthpiece of mostly
foreign sno-mobile corporations have come to expect. Why don't you poaching
Aryan Nations loving assholes phone Tokyo for instructions instead of
threatening Americans? :-)))

Dave
Most BRC members are not aware of who controls the BRC



Nor evidently are you. I happen to dispise aryan nations. They are a
bunch of "nuts" such as yourself that go off half cocked in attempt to
deny truth, and instill hate.

I do belong to the BRC, I own and drive snowmobiles, my John Deere was
the last one I had the was manufactured in the USA. Can't purchase
what is not made.

Where in this post does it identify the poster as an American.
Perhaps you should make an effort to determine the poster's sex,
nationality, religious preference, sexual preference and level of
education. Or do you prefer to run on ass umption, as you did with
ass umming that I am a part of the Aryan Nations.

I am not a lawyer, preferring honest work.

Where does your anger come from Dave?

David Snedeker December 7th, 2003 04:11 AM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 

"Jack W Clarkson" wrote in message
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SNIPPED WORD SALAD

Well Jack I don't see any point in sugar-coating things for people who lend
their names to groups that oppose responsible snowmobile use and damage this
country.

Since you are a member and claim to be in the know, you probably know that
the BRC has supported the campaigns of Aryan Nations-friendly candidates.
And since you are a member you might even be able to explain to folks how
the system of laundering memberships and manufacturer contributions via the
dealers works.

And since you were huffing and puffing about a lawsuit, your comment about
lawyers is kind of confused isn't it? I mean you are the blowhard posturing
about suing people?

The bottom line is that like many people, you got suckered into joining a
non-democratic, thinly veiled lobbying scam controlled by foreign interests,
because they fed you a line of bull**** about how your sno-machine fetish
was threatened if any attempt was made to keep the drunks and children off
the machines, apply any safety standards, etc.. These outfits depend on
suckers like you.

Dave



Jack W Clarkson December 7th, 2003 03:26 PM

Blue Ribbon Coalition member arrested in Yellowstone National Park
 
"David Snedeker" wrote in message ...
"Jack W Clarkson" wrote in message
om...
SNIPPED WORD SALAD

Well Jack I don't see any point in sugar-coating things for people who lend
their names to groups that oppose responsible snowmobile use and damage this
country.

Since you are a member and claim to be in the know, you probably know that
the BRC has supported the campaigns of Aryan Nations-friendly candidates.
And since you are a member you might even be able to explain to folks how
the system of laundering memberships and manufacturer contributions via the
dealers works.

And since you were huffing and puffing about a lawsuit, your comment about
lawyers is kind of confused isn't it? I mean you are the blowhard posturing
about suing people?

The bottom line is that like many people, you got suckered into joining a
non-democratic, thinly veiled lobbying scam controlled by foreign interests,
because they fed you a line of bull**** about how your sno-machine fetish
was threatened if any attempt was made to keep the drunks and children off
the machines, apply any safety standards, etc.. These outfits depend on
suckers like you.

Dave


Dave,
Your ass umptions are riduculous. I did not threaten any law suit, I
stated that there is "liability" in making slanderous statments as was
done with the headline of the post. Your Ass umptions that you know
the "truth" about BRC is totally incorrect. It is you who has been
suckered into some erroneous beliefs.
I am sure that if the headline was "GYC Member arrested in National
Park" you would be questioning the motivation of the poster. Since
the headline slanders an organization that you dislike, you mount a
campaign against those that do question the headline. Your reactions
are a pretty good indicator of your ability to sort things out for
yourself Dave.

So long unitl tomorrow......

Jack


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