OT Anti-Semitism is strong in Europe
 

Well, that's what the headline said in today's paper. The
Anti-Defamation League conducted a "survey" and came to that
conclusion. "This poll confirms that anti-Semitism remains
alive and well in the minds of many Europeans."

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASInt_13/5465_13.htm

I decided to take the poll for myself. Apparently the criteria
for anti-Semitism lies in the first four questions of the "survey"
where respondents were asked to respond "probably true" or "probably
false". If you answered "probably true" to any three out of four
you're an anti-Semite.


(1) Jews are more loyal to Israel than to this country.
(2) Jews have too much power in the business world.
(3) Jews have too much power in international financial markets.
(4) Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the
Holocaust.

I answered "probably true" to 1 and 4 and "probably false: to 2 and 3.
Whew, that was close. ;-)

The "survey" continued with the following.


(5) The Jews are responsible for the death of Christ.
(6a) Is your opinion of Jews influenced by actions taken by the
State of Israel?

If "Yes"

(6b) Is your opinion of Jews better or worse?

(7) In your opinion, is the violence directed against Jews in
(insert individual country name) a result of anti-Jewish
feelings or a result of anti-Israel sentiment?
(8) Do you think your government is doing enough to ensure
the safety and security of its Jewish citizens?

I answered "Yes" to 5 and 8 and "No" to 6 and anti-Jewish to 7.

This last one had only one "correct" answer according to the ADL
and that is "not at all". Anything else and you're part of the
growing tide of anti-Semitism.


How much blame do you place on Jews in the financial industry for
the current global economic crisis? Do you blame them a great deal,
a good amount, a little or not at all?

They surveyed 500 people in each of 35 European countries, a decent
enough sample size if properly randomized. As for the value of the
"survey" in determining the amount of anti-Semitism in Europe I think
the ADL found what they wanted to find more than anything else.

--
Ken Fortenberry

OT Anti-Semitism is strong in Europe
 

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
...
They surveyed 500 people in each of 35 European countries, ...

Oops, should be 7 countries for 3500 total people.

--
Ken Fortenberry

OT Anti-Semitism is strong in Europe
 

On Feb 11, 11:42*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Well, that's what the headline said in today's paper. The
Anti-Defamation League conducted a "survey" and came to that
conclusion. "This poll confirms that anti-Semitism remains
alive and well in the minds of many Europeans."

One problem with polls like this is the necessity of ignoring gray
areas and considering the group as a homogeneous entity. "Jews are
more loyal to Israel than to this country?" What does that mean?
All Jews? Some Jews? Any Jews? The questions virtually require you
to take a discriminatory position by assigning a specific quality to
someone by virtue of their religious or ethnic group. I don't see the
validity at all.

Joe F.

OT Anti-Semitism is strong in Europe
 

rb608 wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Well, that's what the headline said in today's paper. The
Anti-Defamation League conducted a "survey" and came to that
conclusion. "This poll confirms that anti-Semitism remains
alive and well in the minds of many Europeans."

One problem with polls like this is the necessity of ignoring gray
areas and considering the group as a homogeneous entity. "Jews are
more loyal to Israel than to this country?" What does that mean?
All Jews? Some Jews? Any Jews? The questions virtually require you
to take a discriminatory position by assigning a specific quality to
someone by virtue of their religious or ethnic group. I don't see the
validity at all.

Exactly correct. If you're going to ask a question like that and
expect the answers to have any validity you have to provide your
respondents with wiggle room. This is often done with the 5 point
response where 5 is strongly agree, 4 is agree, 3 is no opinion,
2 is disagree and 1 is strongly disagree. Even plain old true or
false would provide more valid data than "probably true" and
"probably false".

It was a rigged "survey" designed to prove what the ADL wanted it
to prove.

--
Ken Fortenberry

OT Anti-Semitism is strong in Europe
 

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:42:10 -0600, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Well, that's what the headline said in today's paper. The
Anti-Defamation League conducted a "survey" and came to that
conclusion. "This poll confirms that anti-Semitism remains
alive and well in the minds of many Europeans."

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASInt_13/5465_13.htm

I decided to take the poll for myself. Apparently the criteria
for anti-Semitism lies in the first four questions of the "survey"
where respondents were asked to respond "probably true" or "probably
false". If you answered "probably true" to any three out of four
you're an anti-Semite.


(1) Jews are more loyal to Israel than to this country.
(2) Jews have too much power in the business world.
(3) Jews have too much power in international financial markets.
(4) Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the
Holocaust.

I answered "probably true" to 1 and 4 and "probably false: to 2 and 3.
Whew, that was close. ;-)

The "survey" continued with the following.


(5) The Jews are responsible for the death of Christ.
(6a) Is your opinion of Jews influenced by actions taken by the
State of Israel?

If "Yes"

(6b) Is your opinion of Jews better or worse?

(7) In your opinion, is the violence directed against Jews in
(insert individual country name) a result of anti-Jewish
feelings or a result of anti-Israel sentiment?
(8) Do you think your government is doing enough to ensure
the safety and security of its Jewish citizens?

I answered "Yes" to 5 and 8 and "No" to 6 and anti-Jewish to 7.

This last one had only one "correct" answer according to the ADL
and that is "not at all". Anything else and you're part of the
growing tide of anti-Semitism.


How much blame do you place on Jews in the financial industry for
the current global economic crisis? Do you blame them a great deal,
a good amount, a little or not at all?

They surveyed 500 people in each of 35 European countries, a decent
enough sample size if properly randomized. As for the value of the
"survey" in determining the amount of anti-Semitism in Europe I think
the ADL found what they wanted to find more than anything else.

Hmmm...I couldn't figure out which Jew(s) they were talking about...but you know
those tricky Jews...

From the first question, it seemed silly - I mean, what did they expect to be
the answer if the "this country" in Question 1 was, oh, say, Iran...?

....and BTW, they forgot a really important one: "Do you feel that Jews at the
ADL wasted time and money with a stupid-ass meaningless survey...?"

HTH,
R

OT Anti-Semitism is strong in Europe
 

On Feb 11, 5:42*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Well, that's what the headline said in today's paper. The
Anti-Defamation League conducted a "survey" and came to that
conclusion. "This poll confirms that anti-Semitism remains
alive and well in the minds of many Europeans."

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASInt_13/5465_13.htm

I decided to take the poll for myself. Apparently the criteria
for anti-Semitism lies in the first four questions of the "survey"
where respondents were asked to respond "probably true" or "probably
false". If you answered "probably true" to any three out of four
you're an anti-Semite.

(1) Jews are more loyal to Israel than to this country.
(2) Jews have too much power in the business world.
(3) Jews have too much power in international financial markets.
(4) Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the
* * *Holocaust.

I answered "probably true" to 1 and 4 and "probably false: to 2 and 3.
Whew, that was close. ;-)

The "survey" continued with the following.

(5) The Jews are responsible for the death of Christ.
(6a) Is your opinion of Jews influenced by actions taken by the
* * * State of Israel?

If "Yes"

(6b) Is your opinion of Jews better or worse?

(7) In your opinion, is the violence directed against Jews in
* * *(insert individual country name) a result of anti-Jewish
* * *feelings or a result of anti-Israel sentiment?
(8) Do you think your government is doing enough to ensure
* * *the safety and security of its Jewish citizens?

I answered "Yes" to 5 and 8 and "No" to 6 and anti-Jewish to 7.

This last one had only one "correct" answer according to the ADL
and that is "not at all". Anything else and you're part of the
growing tide of anti-Semitism.

How much blame do you place on Jews in the financial industry for
the current global economic crisis? Do you blame them a great deal,
a good amount, a little or not at all?

They surveyed 500 people in each of 35 European countries, a decent
enough sample size if properly randomized. As for the value of the
"survey" in determining the amount of anti-Semitism in Europe I think
the ADL found what they wanted to find more than anything else.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Yeah, it's a sad world for Fortenberry's, a lot of people don't like
queers much either.................

I think Fortenberry's should be randomised, or even better, atomised.