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Larry L March 2nd, 2009 11:56 PM

More FB 'security'
 
I just got an e-mail from a friend saying he had received an invitation to
join FaceBook from me and wondering "what's up"

To the best of my knowledge I did NOT tell FB to invite him, I DID search
for him on FB via his e-mail

I'm NOT happy about this.



JR March 3rd, 2009 01:54 AM

More FB 'security'
 
Larry L wrote:
I just got an e-mail from a friend saying he had received an invitation to
join FaceBook from me and wondering "what's up"

To the best of my knowledge I did NOT tell FB to invite him, I DID search
for him on FB via his e-mail

I'm NOT happy about this.


Yeah, that sucks. And I can't find anywhere on FB any indication, much
less where they ask you to "search for friends by email," that *they*
would send that person an email. As if you couldn't send them an email
yourself, if you wanted to.....

- JR


Larry L March 3rd, 2009 04:54 AM

More FB 'security'
 

"JR" wrote in message
...
Larry L wrote:
I just got an e-mail from a friend saying he had received an invitation
to join FaceBook from me and wondering "what's up"

To the best of my knowledge I did NOT tell FB to invite him, I DID search
for him on FB via his e-mail

I'm NOT happy about this.


Yeah, that sucks. And I can't find anywhere on FB any indication, much
less where they ask you to "search for friends by email," that *they*
would send that person an email. As if you couldn't send them an email
yourself, if you wanted to.....

- JR



He has a pretty common name, so a search by name turned up many pages of
'hims' most with no info on location and only an icon instead of a photo.
So I tried the search via e-mail


I have my own domain that is doing damn little ( except costing money ) and
I think I'm going to set up an old fashioned ( maybe older than UseNet !!
;-) mailing_list there for my 'troutbum' friends to keep in touch. You
know the old automated lists where an e-mail to the list reaches everyone on
that list. One BIG advantage is that keeping in touch can be done from a
simple e-mail client, instead of a browser, and without ads wasting
bandwidth and d/load time. I meet a few people each year I'd like to
follow, especially during fishing season, and I'm looking for a low tech,
low spam risk, no ad download time, sensibly high security, way to do so.

FB ain't it ... and most of the troutbums I meet are grumpy old codgers like
me and aren't going to join FB even if it was it. Actually, I can't
imagine any "public" forum working as I desire ... some people are just too,
well you knowg .... and the type of people I have in mind aren't going to
share what they know without confidence in those getting the info. I
think it has to be an 'invitation only' deal, starting with those I invite
and adding people those people, in turn, invite ... but with a means to
evict any troublemakers always at hand and enforceable.

Opps I'm getting all sidetracked ... but this has been on my mind and I want
to get something going by May.



[email protected] March 3rd, 2009 06:03 AM

More FB 'security'
 
On Mar 3, 5:54*am, "Larry L" wrote:


Google groups will do everything you specify, and more. Will also act
as a e-mail list among other things. Easy, private, and secure, may be
set up in a few minutes, and is free;

http://groups.google.com/

TL
MC

Larry L March 3rd, 2009 06:42 AM

More FB 'security'
 

wrote in message
...
On Mar 3, 5:54 am, "Larry L" wrote:


Google groups will do everything you specify, and more. Will also act
as a e-mail list among other things. Easy, private, and secure, may be
set up in a few minutes, and is free;

http://groups.google.com/

TL
MC


I don't want to invite anyone into a situation where they get blasted by
spam e-mail I have zero experience with Google groups but I worry
about my friends ( not really myself, I have dozens of e-mail addys, and I
can delete any that get spammed ) I have already run into resistence from
some of the people I'm hoping to network, they don't tend to be 'puter
types, and they do NOT want to take any perceived online risks.


Do you have personal experience with the Google Groups? Do all members of a
group have to sign up for a Google 'account'?




[email protected] March 3rd, 2009 07:16 AM

More FB 'security'
 
On Mar 3, 7:42*am, "Larry L" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Mar 3, 5:54 am, "Larry L" wrote:

Google groups will do everything you specify, and more. Will also act
as a e-mail list among other things. Easy, private, and secure, may be
set up in a few minutes, and is free;

http://groups.google.com/

TL
MC

I don't want to invite anyone into a situation where they get blasted by
spam e-mail * * * I have zero experience with Google groups but I worry
about my friends ( not really myself, I have dozens of e-mail addys, and I
can delete any that get spammed ) * *I have already run into resistence from
some of the people I'm hoping to network, they don't tend to be 'puter
types, and they do NOT want to take any perceived online risks.

Do you have personal experience with the Google Groups? *Do all members of a
group have to sign up for a Google 'account'?


Yes, I have used Google groups for various things, and still do. It
is not possible to spam a private group, only members have access.
Using dozens of e-mail accounts is a waste of time, better to use a
good anti-spam facility like Mail Washer;

http://www.mailwasher.net/

It is the best there is. I have used it for years, I was one of the
original beta testers and got a free "Pro" licence for life. The free
version supports one mail account.
Google mail also has excellent anti-spam facilities, if you implement
them.

Members have to sign up for a Google groups account.

It only takes a minute to set it up and try it.

http://groups.google.com/groups/create?lnk=gcphpp

TL
MC

[email protected] March 3rd, 2009 07:36 AM

More FB 'security'
 
As the group manager you have a very wide range of options. You can
ban people, remove posts, etc etc, as with much other "standard" forum/
group software, but it is a great deal easier to use, and you don't
need to worry about servers, backups, domains, etc etc etc. Lots of
options and possibilities, and private ( restricted access) groups are
completely closed to anybody except members.

Very convenient and useful.

TL
MC

Larry L March 3rd, 2009 08:07 AM

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wrote

Yes, I have used Google groups for various things, and still do. It
is not possible to spam a private group, only members have access.
Using dozens of e-mail accounts is a waste of time, better to use a
good anti-spam facility like Mail Washer;






I exaggerated .... I have one addy I use ONLY for the most trusted people, a
hotmail, gmail, live.com account or three I almost never check and use
places like ROFF and a couple others reserved for special selections of
people, say business contacts, to have.

I already use mailwaser pro and you are right, it's great ... I only use it
for 3 accounts, 4 counting my wife's ...


many of the people I'm trying to network only have a single e-mail from
their ISP, are very experienced fishermen but almost totally inexperienced
on the 'Net I know that it's hard for many of us old time 'net abusers
to believe, but trust me, there are still lots of people that find even
simple e-mail difficult to master.



as for the spam, I was wondering how much Google sells and abuses e-mail
addresses of 'groupers'











[email protected] March 3rd, 2009 08:54 AM

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On Mar 3, 9:07*am, "Larry L" wrote:


many of the people I'm trying to network only have a single e-mail from
their ISP, are very experienced fishermen but almost totally inexperienced
on the 'Net * * I know that it's hard for many of us old time 'net abusers
to believe, but trust me, there are still lots of people that find even
simple e-mail difficult to master.

as for the spam, I was wondering how much Google sells and abuses e-mail
addresses of 'groupers'


Indeed, very many people have considerable problems with lots of
things regarding computers. Just how it is. Some accept it, some do
not. If one accepts it, then one must also at least attempt to become
conversant with it, or one simply does not have the utility.

No idea whether Google sells addresses. I would think not, they don't
need to. I, and members of the (Google) groups I run or use don't get
any spam. It is also impossible for anybody to spam a restricted
access group.

The only real solution to these things is to "suck it and see". All
depends on what you want. I certainly would not even attempt to use
Facebook, or any of the similar "Social networks", for any sensible
purpose, or indeed any purpose at all, as I can't see any point in
doing so, but obviously some people like these things. Again, it
depends on what you want.

TL
MC



Larry L March 3rd, 2009 09:11 AM

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wrote

access group.

The only real solution to these things is to "suck it and see".



I've been 'playing with' Google groups, created a group, added myself ( via
other addresses as members ) and tested some functions.

seems to work well

I like the fact that gmail ( unlike current hotmail/ live.com ) can be
accessed from an email client ... POP and SMTP ... so I think I'll suggest
getting a gmail address to my buds and have them apply to the group using
that ... if we have any problems they can just cancel the google account and
have the ISP mail undamaged


thanks for the suggestion, Mike




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