A good example of what's really wrong with health care in the US....
 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...00 9111122560

This writer, who acknowledges she isn't a fan of the bill, is glad it passed
because, well, in her own words: "I was cheering for it even more because of the
appalling amount of misinformation being peddled by its opponents." Aside from
the absurdity of such a position, she isn't even right about some of the alleged
"misinformation" and she "misinformationally spins" others. For example, she
quotes two Congresspeople as saying, "Americans could face five years in jail if
they don't comply with the bill's demands to buy approved health insurance." and
"The president's own economic advisers have said that this bill will kill 5.5
million jobs." She then (unwittingly?) acknowledges the former as an accurate
statement, but attempts to twist into being inaccurate by attempting to give
legal opinions as to who would or would not be prosecuted under the "letter of
the law." The fact remains that under the bill/law as written as approved by
the House, the statement, "Americans _could_ face..." is correct (as it would
have been to say, "would be subject to...").

As to the latter, she is herself "spinning" with misinformation - Romer did
co-author (one? with her husband), prior to joining the administration while as
a professor, (academic) economic papers that included theories and formulas that
show that measures such as were contained in the House health care bill would
"kill jobs." I'm not alleging that they are correct or incorrect, only that
Romer offered them as correct. While any absolute number is debatable (and the
5.5 million is, to say the least, highly suspect - a couple of non-partisan
applications I've seen of the formula put it the 200-500,000 range) because any
number has estimates in the calculation, the general theory put forth by Romer
in those papers is that such measures will kill, not create, jobs in significant
numbers.

To be sure, pols of all flavors are twisting language beyond reason in this
"debate," but when the "sides" have become so partisan as to act and speak with
no motivation beyond spite and personal perceptions of "winning the spin war"
the whole process, not to mention the underlying issue itself, is well and truly
doomed to failure.

HTH,
R

A good example of what's really wrong with health care in theUS....
 

On Nov 12, 8:24*am, wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...09/11/10/AR200...

This writer, who acknowledges she isn't a fan of the bill, is glad it passed
because, well, in her own words: "I was cheering for it even more because of the
appalling amount of misinformation being peddled by its opponents." *Aside from
the absurdity of such a position, she isn't even right about some of the alleged
"misinformation" and she "misinformationally spins" others. *For example, she
quotes two Congresspeople as saying, "Americans could face five years in jail if
they don't comply with the bill's demands to buy approved health insurance." and
"The president's own economic advisers have said that this bill will kill 5.5
million jobs." *She then (unwittingly?) acknowledges the former as an accurate
statement, but attempts to twist into being inaccurate by attempting to give
legal opinions as to who would or would not be prosecuted under the "letter of
the law." *The fact remains that under the bill/law as written as approved by
the House, the statement, "Americans _could_ face..." is correct (as it would
have been to say, "would be subject to...").

As to the latter, she is herself "spinning" with misinformation - Romer did
co-author (one? with her husband), prior to joining the administration while as
a professor, (academic) economic papers that included theories and formulas that
show that measures such as were contained in the House health care bill would
"kill jobs." *I'm not alleging that they are correct or incorrect, only that
Romer offered them as correct. *While any absolute number is debatable (and the
5.5 million is, to say the least, highly suspect - a couple of non-partisan
applications I've seen of the formula put it the 200-500,000 range) because any
number has estimates in the calculation, the general theory put forth by Romer
in those papers is that such measures will kill, not create, jobs in significant
numbers.

To be sure, pols of all flavors are twisting language beyond reason in this
"debate," but when the "sides" have become so partisan as to act and speak with
no motivation beyond spite and personal perceptions of "winning the spin war"
the whole process, not to mention the underlying issue itself, is well and truly
doomed to failure.

HTH,
R

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Idiot.

g.

A good example of what's really wrong with health care in the US....
 

wrote in message
...
To be sure, pols of all flavors are twisting language beyond reason in
this
"debate," but when the "sides" have become so partisan as to act and speak
with
no motivation beyond spite and personal perceptions of "winning the spin
war"
the whole process, not to mention the underlying issue itself, is well and
truly
doomed to failure.

um,couldn't the above apply to pretty much all political issues in the past
couple of decades?
And, yes, it almost ensures failure.
Tom

A good example of what's really wrong with health care in theUS....
 

On Nov 12, 3:24*pm, wrote:


To be sure, pols of all flavors are twisting language beyond reason in this
"debate," but when the "sides" have become so partisan as to act and speak with
no motivation beyond spite and personal perceptions of "winning the spin war"
the whole process, not to mention the underlying issue itself, is well and truly
doomed to failure.

HTH,
R

Sounds just like the ****e you ignorant dumbos constantly post on
here.