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Stan Gula April 23rd, 2004 01:13 AM

An on topic post. What I learned this winter
 
My flyboxes are pretty much filled for the year aside from replacing things
I lose in trees, fish and my forearm (two last summer, ouch). I had the
real pleasure to tie with a couple of really good people this winter and I
learned a few new patterns.

I was shown a really old Penobscot River streamer called the Penobscot
Special for lack of a better name. The fly comes with a 2 hour story which
I will not repeat here. The fly was originally nameless and the original
tyer tied them in hand using only a pocket knife for tools (and here I have
to admit that the story contained a *lot* of exaggeration). The fly is tied
on a 6xl size 6 streamer hook (because that's all the original tyer had or
course). The body is red floss, wrapped on really thick, in a cigar shape.
This is ribbed with embossed silver tinsel (the kind that tarnishes, and you
know why). The wing is a small clump of gray squirrel tail. Black thread.

The second pattern is a caddis emerger that is named after a hotel in
Vermont. I've never been there, so I have no idea what the name is. I've
never seen anything like it, and for all I know, some guy at the hotel has a
copyright on it. It's pretty simple to tie, looks really nice in the water,
and catches fish all over New England (this from the guy who taught me the
pattern, who learned it after being contracted by the hotel to tie some
ungodly number of dozen so the hotel could give them away to guests).

Hook: size 16 dry fly
Thread: 8/0 chartreuse Uni
Tail: very sparse horse tail - only about 6 fibers. Any suitable stiff,
thin brown hair would work.
Back:brown closed cell foam. Tie in at the tail and pull over the body
after ribbing
Rib:green krystal flash. 4 strands twisted into a rope.
Body: brown dry fly dubbing
Wing:dark dun CDC tied over the back caddis style
Overwing: green Hi-vis (a sparse bundle on top of the CDC)

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Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps



Hooked April 24th, 2004 07:23 AM

An on topic post. What I learned this winter
 
"Stan Gula" wrote in message
...
My flyboxes are pretty much filled for the year aside from replacing

things
I lose in trees, fish and my forearm (two last summer, ouch). I had the
real pleasure to tie with a couple of really good people this winter and I
learned a few new patterns.


These sound like some nice flies. Any way to post a pic of these to a.b.p.f.
?



Stan Gula April 24th, 2004 11:17 PM

An on topic post. What I learned this winter
 
"Hooked" wrote in message
...
"Stan Gula" wrote in message
...
My flyboxes are pretty much filled for the year aside from replacing

things
I lose in trees, fish and my forearm (two last summer, ouch). I had the
real pleasure to tie with a couple of really good people this winter and

I
learned a few new patterns.


These sound like some nice flies. Any way to post a pic of these to

a.b.p.f.
?


Unfortunately, the door to the battery compartment of my camera fell off
(and my son claims it was broken when he borrowed it). It's on its way to
or through the Canon repair facility.

Remind me in a month or so and I'll try to grab some shots. I have a couple
dozen new patterns that I tied this winter and I need to record them for my
own use before I use, abuse and lose them.



Hooked April 25th, 2004 04:29 AM

An on topic post. What I learned this winter
 
"Stan Gula" wrote in message
...

Unfortunately, the door to the battery compartment of my camera fell off
(and my son claims it was broken when he borrowed it). It's on its way to
or through the Canon repair facility.

Remind me in a month or so and I'll try to grab some shots. I have a

couple
dozen new patterns that I tied this winter and I need to record them for

my
own use before I use, abuse and lose them.



Got a scanner?



Stan Gula April 25th, 2004 12:41 PM

An on topic post. What I learned this winter
 
"Hooked" wrote in message
...
"Stan Gula" wrote in message
...

Unfortunately, the door to the battery compartment of my camera fell off
(and my son claims it was broken when he borrowed it). It's on its way

to
or through the Canon repair facility.

Remind me in a month or so and I'll try to grab some shots. I have a

couple
dozen new patterns that I tied this winter and I need to record them for

my
own use before I use, abuse and lose them.



Got a scanner?


I have a broken one of those toog



Hooked April 25th, 2004 10:45 PM

An on topic post. What I learned this winter
 
"Stan Gula" wrote in message
...

I have a broken one of those toog



Remind me to never, ever, borrow you any of my expensive toys.



Stan Gula April 26th, 2004 02:44 AM

An on topic post. What I learned this winter
 
"Hooked" wrote in message
...

I have a broken one of those toog



Remind me to never, ever, borrow you any of my expensive toys.


;-)



Larry Medina April 26th, 2004 10:17 PM

An on topic post. What I learned this winter
 
I was shown a really old Penobscot River streamer called the Penobscot
Special for lack of a better name. The fly is tied
on a 6xl size 6 streamer hook (because that's all the original tyer had or
course). The body is red floss, wrapped on really thick, in a cigar shape.
This is ribbed with embossed silver tinsel (the kind that tarnishes, and you
know why). The wing is a small clump of gray squirrel tail. Black thread.


Old standard simple patterns are quite wonderful, don't you think?

I had one that has always produced well for me, especially in waters
with large German Brown or Dolly Varden Trout...

#8 2xl heavy streamer hook
black thread
brown hackle fiber tail, heavy
orange floss body
brown hackle tied in at rear and palmered forward over body
polar bear hair downwing, to middle of tail

The body is coated with head cement and allowed to dry tacky prior to
palmering the hackle forward, and the head is coated with two coats of
head cement to a high gloss.

The fly is cast across current, allowed to float down and then stripped
back or trolled at a VERY SLOW speed (usually by rowing).

The second pattern is a caddis emerger that is named after a hotel in
Vermont. I've never been there, so I have no idea what the name is. I've
never seen anything like it, and for all I know, some guy at the hotel has a
copyright on it. It's pretty simple to tie, looks really nice in the water,
and catches fish all over New England (this from the guy who taught me the
pattern, who learned it after being contracted by the hotel to tie some
ungodly number of dozen so the hotel could give them away to guests).

Hook: size 16 dry fly
Thread: 8/0 chartreuse Uni
Tail: very sparse horse tail - only about 6 fibers. Any suitable stiff,
thin brown hair would work.
Back:brown closed cell foam. Tie in at the tail and pull over the body
after ribbing
Rib:green krystal flash. 4 strands twisted into a rope.
Body: brown dry fly dubbing
Wing:dark dun CDC tied over the back caddis style
Overwing: green Hi-vis (a sparse bundle on top of the CDC)


I'd like to see an image of this one... do you think you could put one
up on ABPF? The foam makes it sound pretty bulky, kind of hard to get a
nice low wing a'la caddis, especially with the hi-vis added on.

Larry

Stan Gula April 27th, 2004 02:14 AM

An on topic post. What I learned this winter
 
"Larry Medina" wrote in message
m...

Old standard simple patterns are quite wonderful, don't you think?


Absolutely.

#8 2xl heavy streamer hook
black thread
brown hackle fiber tail, heavy
orange floss body
brown hackle tied in at rear and palmered forward over body
polar bear hair downwing, to middle of tail

The body is coated with head cement and allowed to dry tacky prior to
palmering the hackle forward, and the head is coated with two coats of
head cement to a high gloss.


I like that idea of adding a coat of cement before palmering. I do that
with larger (12-14) EHCs for durability.

Vermont hotel caddis recipe snipped
I'd like to see an image of this one... do you think you could put one
up on ABPF? The foam makes it sound pretty bulky, kind of hard to get a
nice low wing a'la caddis, especially with the hi-vis added on.


As soon as I get my camera back. The wings do stand up a bit, but in my
estimation, the CDC is there mostly to hang the fly in the film.




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