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Baal April 11th, 2004 09:16 PM

Seem to make blanking a habit
 
Only fished twice this year - today and about 3 weeks ago.

I have spent much of the winter reading and learning but as I am fishing a
new water, I cannot see signs of fish (despite the local's advice - but they
aren't catching much either). There are carp to 28lbs plus and numerous
other species in the 4 acre lake.

Is it just too early in the year - water cold, etc or am I doing something
wrong?

I plumbed the lake about 6 weeks ago and apart from snags in the middle it
shelves off quickly to 6-8 feet. The depth is fairly constant and it is a
disused quarry but not a gravel pit. I have been attempting feature finding
but find it difficult to interpret what is going on. There are no islands
but overhanging trees in the margins but no fish movement in the margins
yet.

Today over 12 hours or so, I tried float, bottom using boilies and corn
(with a stench additive) over a bed of hemp and bags of trout and halibut
pellets. It seemed pointless floating on the surface coz there was nothing
moving on the top. I did try a zig-rig with a tutti frutti pop-up boilie at
varying depths. I fish 2 rods in the middle and one in the margins - all to
no avail.

Do I just need to wait until I can see signs of where the fish frequent, or
are there any other tips?
--
I smile and go off waving
(Amiably) - for that's my way

Baal

http://www.helden.co.uk



Derek.Moody April 12th, 2004 12:44 PM

Seem to make blanking a habit
 
In article , Baal
wrote:
Only fished twice this year - today and about 3 weeks ago.

I have spent much of the winter reading and learning but as I am fishing a
new water, I cannot see signs of fish (despite the local's advice - but they
aren't catching much either). There are carp to 28lbs plus and numerous
other species in the 4 acre lake.

Is it just too early in the year - water cold, etc or am I doing something
wrong?


Dunno, what temperature is the water at the bottom? What's it like around
the inflow?

but overhanging trees in the margins but no fish movement in the margins
yet.


In general if they are feeding you should see some signs, no signs at all is
a bad sign iyswIm.

Today over 12 hours or so, I tried float, bottom using boilies and corn
(with a stench additive) over a bed of hemp and bags of trout and halibut
pellets. It seemed pointless floating on the surface coz there was nothing
moving on the top. I did try a zig-rig with a tutti frutti pop-up boilie at
varying depths. I fish 2 rods in the middle and one in the margins - all to
no avail.


You have been reading haven't you?

There's a very good chance that you've overfed them. In the circs a
biggish, lively worm would have been worth trying. Just one, let it
advertise itself by moving. If you get some response then a few chopped
worms as freebies might help but unless you are seeing signs of feeding fish
there's no point in piling in food.

Do I just need to wait until I can see signs of where the fish frequent, or
are there any other tips?


Fish somewhere else for a while?

Cheerio,

--



Baal April 12th, 2004 08:11 PM

Seem to make blanking a habit
 
Thank you Derek. Juicy worm it is next time.

--
I smile and go off waving
(Amiably) - for that's my way

Baal

http://www.helden.co.uk
"Derek.Moody" wrote in message
...
In article , Baal
wrote:
Only fished twice this year - today and about 3 weeks ago.

I have spent much of the winter reading and learning but as I am fishing

a
new water, I cannot see signs of fish (despite the local's advice - but

they
aren't catching much either). There are carp to 28lbs plus and numerous
other species in the 4 acre lake.

Is it just too early in the year - water cold, etc or am I doing

something
wrong?


Dunno, what temperature is the water at the bottom? What's it like around
the inflow?

but overhanging trees in the margins but no fish movement in the margins
yet.


In general if they are feeding you should see some signs, no signs at all

is
a bad sign iyswIm.

Today over 12 hours or so, I tried float, bottom using boilies and corn
(with a stench additive) over a bed of hemp and bags of trout and

halibut
pellets. It seemed pointless floating on the surface coz there was

nothing
moving on the top. I did try a zig-rig with a tutti frutti pop-up

boilie at
varying depths. I fish 2 rods in the middle and one in the margins -

all to
no avail.


You have been reading haven't you?

There's a very good chance that you've overfed them. In the circs a
biggish, lively worm would have been worth trying. Just one, let it
advertise itself by moving. If you get some response then a few chopped
worms as freebies might help but unless you are seeing signs of feeding

fish
there's no point in piling in food.

Do I just need to wait until I can see signs of where the fish frequent,

or
are there any other tips?


Fish somewhere else for a while?

Cheerio,

--





Derek.Moody April 13th, 2004 05:31 PM

Seem to make blanking a habit
 
In article , Baal
wrote:
Thank you Derek. Juicy worm it is next time.


Ah, but the weather is a-changing so, although a worm is -always- worth a
try it may not be the best bet next time...

Cheerio,

--



Russell April 13th, 2004 10:50 PM

Seem to make blanking a habit
 
Not sure I can help with the cold water etc. however note your comments
about not being able to interpret feature finding. I recently switched to
using braid on my marker/feature finding rod and the difference is
unbelievable.

Compared to mono, dragging a lead over gravel now feels like the rod is
going to be pulled out of my hands. The difference between weed and gravel
is now so obvious without the 25% plus strech that mono has.

Not sure I would use braid for actual fishing but for a marker rod it's a
huge benefit in finding those nice gavel patches.

Russell


"Baal" wrote in message
...
Only fished twice this year - today and about 3 weeks ago.

I have spent much of the winter reading and learning but as I am fishing a
new water, I cannot see signs of fish (despite the local's advice - but

they
aren't catching much either). There are carp to 28lbs plus and numerous
other species in the 4 acre lake.

Is it just too early in the year - water cold, etc or am I doing something
wrong?

I plumbed the lake about 6 weeks ago and apart from snags in the middle it
shelves off quickly to 6-8 feet. The depth is fairly constant and it is a
disused quarry but not a gravel pit. I have been attempting feature

finding
but find it difficult to interpret what is going on. There are no islands
but overhanging trees in the margins but no fish movement in the margins
yet.

Today over 12 hours or so, I tried float, bottom using boilies and corn
(with a stench additive) over a bed of hemp and bags of trout and halibut
pellets. It seemed pointless floating on the surface coz there was

nothing
moving on the top. I did try a zig-rig with a tutti frutti pop-up boilie

at
varying depths. I fish 2 rods in the middle and one in the margins - all

to
no avail.

Do I just need to wait until I can see signs of where the fish frequent,

or
are there any other tips?
--
I smile and go off waving
(Amiably) - for that's my way

Baal

http://www.helden.co.uk





Baal April 16th, 2004 10:52 PM

Seem to make blanking a habit
 
Thanks mate!

I use braid too. I wonder if my difficulty is that I have not yet
encountered a gravel bar.

--
I smile and go off waving
(Amiably) - for that's my way

Baal

http://www.helden.co.uk
"Russell" wrote in message
...
Not sure I can help with the cold water etc. however note your comments
about not being able to interpret feature finding. I recently switched to
using braid on my marker/feature finding rod and the difference is
unbelievable.

Compared to mono, dragging a lead over gravel now feels like the rod is
going to be pulled out of my hands. The difference between weed and gravel
is now so obvious without the 25% plus strech that mono has.

Not sure I would use braid for actual fishing but for a marker rod it's a
huge benefit in finding those nice gavel patches.

Russell


"Baal" wrote in message
...
Only fished twice this year - today and about 3 weeks ago.

I have spent much of the winter reading and learning but as I am fishing

a
new water, I cannot see signs of fish (despite the local's advice - but

they
aren't catching much either). There are carp to 28lbs plus and numerous
other species in the 4 acre lake.

Is it just too early in the year - water cold, etc or am I doing

something
wrong?

I plumbed the lake about 6 weeks ago and apart from snags in the middle

it
shelves off quickly to 6-8 feet. The depth is fairly constant and it is

a
disused quarry but not a gravel pit. I have been attempting feature

finding
but find it difficult to interpret what is going on. There are no

islands
but overhanging trees in the margins but no fish movement in the margins
yet.

Today over 12 hours or so, I tried float, bottom using boilies and corn
(with a stench additive) over a bed of hemp and bags of trout and

halibut
pellets. It seemed pointless floating on the surface coz there was

nothing
moving on the top. I did try a zig-rig with a tutti frutti pop-up

boilie
at
varying depths. I fish 2 rods in the middle and one in the margins -

all
to
no avail.

Do I just need to wait until I can see signs of where the fish frequent,

or
are there any other tips?
--
I smile and go off waving
(Amiably) - for that's my way

Baal

http://www.helden.co.uk








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