Brown trout question
 

In advance, I apologize to the purists here. I was not fly fishing because
of the nature of this stream. Overgrown trees, brush, boulders, all manner
of things. It was frustrating enough with a short spinning rod and a trout
spinner. I would have probably broken a fly rod into twelve pieces and come
out muttering if I had been trying to fish the creek with a flyrod.

A couple of weeks ago, I went fishing in a very small creek. The creek ran
through boulders, and down a ravine, so it was fast in places, and never
very wide. It did have some deep runs and small pools that were one to
three feet deep.

I caught two brown trout that were 14" long, which surprised me from looking
at the stream. One of them was caught by tossing the lure into a pool and
pulling it back through a deep spot. A really fishy looking place. The
second one, I did the same thing, but got no bite in the fishy looking pool
or the deep run. I had the lure about two feet from the end of my pole,
with the tip down, so I just dragged it right in front of me through a run
that was about two feet deep but only about 18" wide. The brown took it
literally at my feet.

I thought that browns were supposed to be very cautious and wary. The water
was turbid because of the amount of water that was coming through small
passages. Was this just a dumb hungry trout, or did he just not see me? I
caught him right at my feet. I want to understand them so the next time I
go, I can catch a couple more nice ones.

And what is the difference between a stream and a creek?

Steve

BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into one of
the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two way radio,
hearing aids, and all.

Brown trout question
 

"SteveB" wrote in
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In advance, I apologize to the purists here. I was not fly fishing
because of the nature of this stream. Overgrown trees, brush,
boulders, all manner of things. It was frustrating enough with a
short spinning rod and a trout spinner. I would have probably broken
a fly rod into twelve pieces and come out muttering if I had been
trying to fish the creek with a flyrod.

That's no excuse ... there are ways of fishing flys in these waters
you may need to be shown how though.


[snip]

I thought that browns were supposed to be very cautious and wary.

:-) Even the wary must eat.

The
water was turbid because of the amount of water that was coming
through small passages. Was this just a dumb hungry trout, or did he
just not see me? I caught him right at my feet. I want to understand
them so the next time I go, I can catch a couple more nice ones.

And what is the difference between a stream and a creek?

Deepends where you come from I suspect ... here there's none. When
referring to streams here they could be a creek, river, rivulet, beck or
even a brook.


Steve

BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into
one of the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two
way radio, hearing aids, and all.

A Full electro-Reid?

;-)

Steve
(hope the electronics survived the dunking ok)

Brown trout question
 

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:47:58 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

In advance, I apologize to the purists here. I was not fly fishing because
of the nature of this stream. Overgrown trees, brush, boulders, all manner
of things. It was frustrating enough with a short spinning rod and a trout
spinner. I would have probably broken a fly rod into twelve pieces and come
out muttering if I had been trying to fish the creek with a flyrod.

A couple of weeks ago, I went fishing in a very small creek. The creek ran
through boulders, and down a ravine, so it was fast in places, and never
very wide. It did have some deep runs and small pools that were one to
three feet deep.

I caught two brown trout that were 14" long, which surprised me from looking
at the stream. One of them was caught by tossing the lure into a pool and
pulling it back through a deep spot. A really fishy looking place. The
second one, I did the same thing, but got no bite in the fishy looking pool
or the deep run. I had the lure about two feet from the end of my pole,
with the tip down, so I just dragged it right in front of me through a run
that was about two feet deep but only about 18" wide. The brown took it
literally at my feet.

I thought that browns were supposed to be very cautious and wary. The water
was turbid because of the amount of water that was coming through small
passages. Was this just a dumb hungry trout, or did he just not see me? I
caught him right at my feet. I want to understand them so the next time I
go, I can catch a couple more nice ones.

And what is the difference between a stream and a creek?

Steve

BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into one of
the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two way radio,
hearing aids, and all.



If the stream was big enough to have a hole that was over your head,
then there are probably browns there that will dwarf your 14"ers. As
far as why the one took at your feet, he was either unaware of your
presence or didn't care. A good example of an anecdotal experience
that doesn't give a good idea of general (in this cae, trout)
behavior. A creek is a stream but not all streams are creeks. The
Amazon is also a stream.


g.c.

Brown trout question
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
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In advance, I apologize


whoa, an apology on roff-
you're not from around here, are you? ;-)

snakefiddler




to the purists here. I was not fly fishing because
of the nature of this stream. Overgrown trees, brush, boulders, all
manner
of things. It was frustrating enough with a short spinning rod and a
trout
spinner. I would have probably broken a fly rod into twelve pieces and
come
out muttering if I had been trying to fish the creek with a flyrod.

A couple of weeks ago, I went fishing in a very small creek. The creek
ran
through boulders, and down a ravine, so it was fast in places, and never
very wide. It did have some deep runs and small pools that were one to
three feet deep.

I caught two brown trout that were 14" long, which surprised me from
looking
at the stream. One of them was caught by tossing the lure into a pool and
pulling it back through a deep spot. A really fishy looking place. The
second one, I did the same thing, but got no bite in the fishy looking
pool
or the deep run. I had the lure about two feet from the end of my pole,
with the tip down, so I just dragged it right in front of me through a run
that was about two feet deep but only about 18" wide. The brown took it
literally at my feet.

I thought that browns were supposed to be very cautious and wary. The
water
was turbid because of the amount of water that was coming through small
passages. Was this just a dumb hungry trout, or did he just not see me?
I
caught him right at my feet. I want to understand them so the next time I
go, I can catch a couple more nice ones.

And what is the difference between a stream and a creek?

Steve

BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into one
of
the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two way radio,
hearing aids, and all.

Brown trout question
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
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I thought that browns were supposed to be very cautious and wary.

I've wondered if their rep for being smarter isn't just due to an increasing
preference for nocturnal feeding as they get bigger. The smaller brownies
I've fished for seem no more cautious than any other trout.

I wonder if surviving populations of rainbows or brookies wouldn't become
equally cautious/night feeders if subjected to centuries of catch and kill,
like Old World browns.

Brown trout question
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
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I thought that browns were supposed to be very cautious and wary.

I've wondered if their rep for being smarter isn't just due to an increasing
preference for nocturnal feeding as they get bigger. The smaller brownies
I've fished for seem no more cautious than any other trout.

I wonder if surviving populations of rainbows or brookies wouldn't become
equally cautious/night feeders if subjected to centuries of catch and kill,
like Old World browns.

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
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"SteveB" wrote in
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BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into
one of the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two
way radio, hearing aids, and all.

A Full electro-Reid?

;-)

Steve
(hope the electronics survived the dunking ok)




As an aside (true story), I got back to camp and took off the wet stuff. I
sat my hearing aids on the barbecue, since it was a black surface, and I
thought they would dry out okay. I sat the two way Cobra radio on the table
in the sunshine. (It survived the dunking and subsequent drying out.)
Stainless S+W was okay, too after drying out.

There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and then
about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it is
going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net over
you?

Steve

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"SteveB" wrote in
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BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into
one of the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two
way radio, hearing aids, and all.

A Full electro-Reid?

;-)

Steve
(hope the electronics survived the dunking ok)




As an aside (true story), I got back to camp and took off the wet stuff. I
sat my hearing aids on the barbecue, since it was a black surface, and I
thought they would dry out okay. I sat the two way Cobra radio on the table
in the sunshine. (It survived the dunking and subsequent drying out.)
Stainless S+W was okay, too after drying out.

There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and then
about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it is
going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net over
you?

Steve

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

Nothin' quite as expensive as your misfortune, but I do have a tendency to
yank Ken Fortenberry's chain--I give him lots of slack, he starts runnin' as
hard as a fat-assed pseudo marathoner can and I just yank back real hard.
Kinda funny really.

Mark
"SteveB" wrote in message
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"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
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"SteveB" wrote in
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BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into
one of the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two
way radio, hearing aids, and all.

A Full electro-Reid?

;-)

Steve
(hope the electronics survived the dunking ok)




As an aside (true story), I got back to camp and took off the wet stuff.
I
sat my hearing aids on the barbecue, since it was a black surface, and I
thought they would dry out okay. I sat the two way Cobra radio on the
table
in the sunshine. (It survived the dunking and subsequent drying out.)
Stainless S+W was okay, too after drying out.

There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and then
about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it is
going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white
coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net
over
you?

Steve

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

Nothin' quite as expensive as your misfortune, but I do have a tendency to
yank Ken Fortenberry's chain--I give him lots of slack, he starts runnin' as
hard as a fat-assed pseudo marathoner can and I just yank back real hard.
Kinda funny really.

Mark
"SteveB" wrote in message
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"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"SteveB" wrote in
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BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into
one of the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two
way radio, hearing aids, and all.

A Full electro-Reid?

;-)

Steve
(hope the electronics survived the dunking ok)




As an aside (true story), I got back to camp and took off the wet stuff.
I
sat my hearing aids on the barbecue, since it was a black surface, and I
thought they would dry out okay. I sat the two way Cobra radio on the
table
in the sunshine. (It survived the dunking and subsequent drying out.)
Stainless S+W was okay, too after drying out.

There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and then
about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it is
going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white
coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net
over
you?

Steve