"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 23:24:19 -0600, rw
wrote:

jeffc wrote:

Bruiser uses a semi-permanent
indicator, which is part of what I don't get about it :-)

He's a Fish Pimp guy now. :-)

They're anything but permanent, that's for sure. At the SJ in Jan the
water was
full of free floating ones. g
Charlie...

Heh . . .heh . . .last time I was fishing the San Juan . . .I should have
been paid for all of them I picked up. I lost one, of cork, not accurately
attached, but was fishing a reverse current so it went upstream and then
came right back to me. My fishing partner couldn't believe it when I told
him it would do so.

When I used to teach some of this stuff, I normally taught without
indicators, because there is more control through the water column with each
cast, depending on where the fish are keying on food. And I use weight to
get to the fish . . .or sometimes no weight at all when fishing nymphs.

And now the scary stuff. When I want to have fun I sight fish to rising
fish, with a dry and maybe a dropper. When I want to catch big fish, I go
subsurface (uhh . . .well no . . . not like a Reid), but to get the fly to
the fish. . .but still I like sight fishing . . .whatever depth, see the
fish, go for that fish.

Indicators in my opinion, can get you to the fish, sometimes pretty
effectively. Out here there seems to be a lot of wind, after 11:00 AM or
so depending on the altitude I'm fishing.
So the place, and conditions, all come into play.

I seem to fish more dries now . But I have fished indicators up to 12 feet
or so okay in still water. Others have done well up to 15 feet. . .so they
told me.

I have caught some nice trout with a 12 foot leader in some deep pools in
this area of Colorado, or Utah, in rivers with nymph flies, without
indicator.
Ya better practice a bit. (high sticking and low sticking)
Mending and weight and rig, and line)
DaveMohnsen
Denver
(uhh . . .anymore I kind of suggest to beginners to use a 7 and 1/2 foot
leader with an 18-24 inch tippet attached to the original leader, for trout
here. Not what I use, but a start. My standard rod for here is a 9 foot
rod, with a long leader, and tippet.
I seem to carry mostly a rod 4,5,6, for trout, a bit more for pike.) Gotta a
3, but haven't put it together yet.

Kinda of a neat thread in my humble mind.
Thanks folks.
BestWishes,
DaveMohnsen
Denver