"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
news:gVv2f.19151$3w.18507@trnddc07...
From: "Bob La Londe"


|
| I also recall when I launched my boat at Lake Havasu State Park (Windsor
| Beach) the only signs around the docks and launch area indicated you
could
| not fish from the docks, and that was it.
|
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Bob La Londe

Cheapskate's Ways to Do Fishing Stuff
(The Frugal Fisherman)
Through the Month of October 2005

http://www.YumaBassMan.com


It could be just like here in Jersey where they post "No fishing or
crabbing from bridge".
It is done for personal safety.

As for "NO FISHING FROM ... HARBOR" I don't know. What does that mean ?

Have you contacted Arizona Fish & Game ?


Yes, I e-mailed several of my contacts at AZ G&F and the State Attorney's
General Office.

***** E-Mail to Attny Gnrl *****

In my understanding its illegal for a private party to post public land NO
HUNTING or public water NO FISHING in Arizona.

In fact, I when I used to hunt and trap for months at a time through the
winter I recall see state lease grazing land post as no trespassing except
for the purpose of legally harvesting wildlife. Wording varied, but
basically if you had a hunting, trapping, or fishing license and were engage
in that activity you could enter the area.

I recall farmers trying to post state lease land against hunters and being
told by Az Game & Fish to remove the signs.

Basically a government agency with direct jurisdiction can post land or
water, and other regulations may limit the ability to hunt or fish such as
not being allowed to hunt within a certain distance of an occupied building.
However any other private closure of public land or water to hunting or
fishing requires a commission special order from the Arizona Game and Fish
Commission. Then it is supposed to be posted as POST NO (HUNTING/FISHING)
BY COMMISSION ORDER #XXXXXXXX.

When I was up at Lake Havasu over the weekend I noticed a couple privately
owned marinas had posted signs like one I saw at Havasu Springs that say
ABSOLUTELY NO FISHING FROM DOCK OR IN HARBOR. No commission order
indicated. Now its my understanding that they own the docks and can legally
post them as no fishing from dock, but that they don't own the water. Its
still public water.

Does anybody know if I understand the statutes correctly and/or if they
actually do have a commission order to post those waters as off limits to
fishing?

Side Note 1:
I also recall when I launched my boat at Lake Havasu State Park (Windsor
Beach), a state operated facility, the only signs around the docks and
launch area indicated you could not fish from the docks, and that was it.

This seems to support my original assumption that you can not post the water
as off limits to fishing accept by commission order.

Side Note 2:
While not directly related I recall a couple years ago where parks in the
Phoenix area had posted NO FIREARMs. A fellow who believed he was legally
carrying his open carry personal sidearm was asked to leave. He then
inquired of your office and was told in fact it was perfectly legal for him
to carry in that public park. The city involved acknowledged that but said
the signs would remain.

This seem to indicate that the state has allowed illegal postings as long as
they are not enforced.


--
Bob La Londe

Cheapskate's Ways to Do Fishing Stuff
(The Frugal Fisherman)
Through the Month of October 2005

http://www.YumaBassMan.com
***** END *****

I sent similar messenges to my contacts at AZ G&F. I'll post their replies
if any.