Ya know what, I think I got that backward. I think he said he doesn't
bother with the tails because beetles don't have tails, an dI remember
thinking they don't have upright wings or hackles either.

Don't know about Joe, but I put hackles on my beetles to imitate legs,
and a tuft of bright-colored yarn-- not to imitate wings, but to help
me see the dang thing.

vince