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Old May 20th, 2004, 06:57 PM
J.P.
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Default Landing Bass through THICK! Milfoil/Vegetation - Advice Needed

First of all, thanks for the valuable input!!

***You don't say what type of tackle you're using. When fishing slop like
you describe, you need to go heavy on your tackle.


Ahhh...that makes sense. I was using much lighter gear than you've
recommended. My setup consisted of a 6' 6" medium-heavy Shimano Clarus
spinning rod w/ a Shimano Sedona 2500 spinning reel....not real conducive to
horsing fish outta the thick stuff.

I guess I'll have to give my wife the unfortunate news...my hand is now
forced and I'll *have* to branch out to a bait casting setup. :-)

You have to hammer them on the hookset, get their head turned in your
direction and be able to keep them up on the surface


Got it! Small room for error in this situation it seems

So JP, you coming to the Northwoods Classic in Rhinelander this fall?


Unfortunately, I'll be visiting relatives in NY city that week. Sure sounds
like a blast though..I'll keep it in mind for next year.

J.P.

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"J.P." long_jp(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote in message
...
The small pond I fish the majority of time has a history of being

heavily
vegetated. I had an opportunity to fish for a couple of hours yesterday
afternoon and noticed that, with the exception of a few pockets of open
water here and there, the lake is nearly completely covered with

milfoil.

***Milfoil can be a double edged sword. While it does offer excellent
cover, it can take over a lake, like you've discovered.


Overall I had an excellent afternoon of bassin'. Landed a couple of 1.5

lb
LMs and a 2 lb momma that was full of eggs and probably ready to bed.

(I
know that probably doesn't sound like much to you guys but considering

that
I haven't gotten out as much as I'd like due to the strange Spring we've

had
in WI and the fact that the pond doesn't hold a lot of big fish I was
feeling pretty good about it!)


***It really has been a strange spring hasn't it? One day it's in the

80's,
the next day it's down in the 40's. The poor fish in my neck of the woods
don't know what in the heck to do.


My typical presentation to combat the thick vegetation is a t-rigged 5"
senko on a 3/0 offset worm hook with a piece of splitshot utilized at

times
for weed penetration purposes. I feel like it is a pretty decent
presentation although it does seem the splitshot is a double-edged

sword.
Sure you get a little more penetration BUT you also have something else

the
weeds can grab on to.


***Try a bullet weight pegged from the back side. It will reduce the

amount
of weeds catching on the weight.


Anyways, after thoroughly fishing the shores I had access to and

whatever
openings in the weed beds I could locate, I started tossing out to the
middle of the pond where vegetation was heaviest. From the maps I've

seen
of the lake it appears that there is a slightly deeper flat running down

the
middle of the pond and I believe that the bass stage there pre-spawn

before
moving to the shallower flats near the bank to bed down. In the course

of
about 20 minutes I had received two MONSTROUS hits each time setting the
hook with a nice smooth dip n' rip of the rod tip only to promptly lose

each
fish as they balled themselves up in the thick vegetation. I'm curious

what
I can do differently technique or presentation wise to minimize these

sort
of occurrences. My first thought was changing my line from mono to
supermono thinking that besides the increased durability the supermono

might
cut through the weeds a little more effectively. Aside from that

thought,
I
have no ideas of how to attack this problem.


***You don't say what type of tackle you're using. When fishing slop like
you describe, you need to go heavy on your tackle. A heavy baitcasting

rod,
or flippin stick is what I would be using under these circumstances,

coupled
with 30 to 50 pound PowerPro line. I know it's not very sporting to use a
7'6" flippin stick on 1 to 3 pound bass, but that's the only way you're
going to get them out of the milfoil.

You have to hammer them on the hookset, get their head turned in your
direction and be able to keep them up on the surface if you intend to land
these fish.

So JP, you coming to the Northwoods Classic in Rhinelander this fall?
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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