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Old November 21st, 2005, 08:09 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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What were the dates of the survey you are referencing? Were all the "ghost"
members and "colonels"on the payroll of the Mississippi and Texas Guard
included in your survey(s)? I think there is a propensity of active duty,
especially officer corp to vote "R." But in my experience it is very rare
for combat vets and enlisted, except airforce, to be oriented to the
republican persuasion, and I have never met a visibly disabled vet, or a
homeless vet who echoed any of the views you so often express. And the only
Congressional Medal of Honor, and 3 of the 4 people I have known who won the
Silver Star were/are all Democrats. Of the active duty people on either
side of my family, not one is a Warhawk; all are thoughtful people,
patriotic, and absent the bull**** rhetoric your flock of chicken hawks are
so fond of retailing.

Dave

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On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:48:26 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Well, here we go again. The Republicans will crank up their
usual smear campaign now that John Murtha has embarrassed
Cheney and Shrub from the floor of the U.S. House.

So here's a little reminder.

Democrats:

* John P. Murtha: US Marines, 1952-55, 1966-67.
* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
* Al Go Army 1969-1972.
* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69.
* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47.
* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70.
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52.
* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68.
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII.

Republicans

* Dick Cheney: did not serve.
* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
* Tom Delay: did not serve.
* Roy Blunt: did not serve.
* Bill Frist: did not serve.
* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
* Rick Santorum: did not serve.
* Trent Lott: did not serve.
* John Ashcroft: did not serve.
* Jeb Bush: did not serve.
* Karl Rove: did not serve.
* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve.
* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
* Richard Perle: did not serve.
* Douglas Feith: did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
* Richard Shelby: did not serve.
* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
* Christopher Cox: did not serve.
* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
* Don Rumsfeld: Navy, 1954-57.
* George W. Bush: National Guard.
* Phil Gramm: did not serve.
* John McCain: Navy, 1958-81.
* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
* George Pataki: did not serve.
* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
* John Engler: did not serve.


Hope this helps.


While exact figures are impossible to obtain (it's illegal), the most
tend to agree that the military votes about 2 to 1 Republican and some
have opined using what little data is available that it was more
lop-sided for Bush, v. Gore and perhaps more telling, more lop-sided
still for Bush, v. Kerry.