"rw" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
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I've found bees in trout stomachs several times. Often as not, they're
really seriously stinging wasps -- yellow jackets. One more datum point
that says fish don't feel pain.


Nope. One datum that suggests trout eat insects that are capable of
inflicting painful.....and sometimes lethal....stings. Says nothing at
all about whether or not fish feel pain.

Wolfgang
who, despite a great deal of experience, STILL finds it curious that so
many are so absolutely bereft of any sense of what data tell them.

My God, you are so dense. That comment was meant as an ironic jab at our
dear fool Barry, and not meant to be taken seriously.

You think he got it? Wanna try a lecture on signal transduction pathways
next? Give him a bit of the old calcium channels.....g-coupled
proteins....that sort of thing?

I have little doubt that fish feel pain.

Wouldn't surprise me much to discover that they aren't much interested in
whether or not you do. Odds are they'd be dubious.

I just don't get all blubbery about it.

Well, nothing's sacred.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that I don't give a ****. I do.

No, I don't think so.

I'll take reasonable steps to minimize a fish's suffering,

Like......giving up fishing?

but it doesn't keep me awake at night.

I believe it. It's the fantasies that do that.

Hee, hee, hee.

Wolfgang