Cyli wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 05 11:08:41 GMT, (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:

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3. It is accepted by science that GW is occurring and that humans are causing
it.

Could you please change that to "humans are aiding and abetting it"?

No.

That would be trying to sweep the human contribution under the rug, in
a pretense that things are basically "normal". The amount of climate
change has been massive and catastrophic already. The time period
before WWII was very mild. The greenhouse gases released by the total
war frenzy peaked in the 1950s and took two decades to descend back to
somthing which could be considered mild. Then the mid 1990s changed
climate in a way never seen or recorded before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accumulated_Cyclone_Energy
1950 was the year for the most recorded storm intensity -- it still has
the record for most major hurricanes.

Here's the record in descending order, mildest first, strongest last,
group in five year periods...
ACE sum & annualized average in Cyclone Intensity order
263 five year sum ACE (1970-1974) 263/5 = 52.6 annual average
271 five year sum ACE (1990-1994) 271/5 = 54.2 annual average
332 five year sum ACE (1975-1979) 332/5 = 66.4 annual average
357 five year sum ACE (1980-1984) 357/5 = 71.4 annual average
396 five year sum ACE (1985-1989) 396/5 = 79.2 annual average
536 five year sum ACE (1955-1959) 536/5 = 107.2 annual average
545 five year sum ACE (1965-1969) 545/5 = 109 annual average
617 five year sum ACE (1960-1964) 617/5 = 123.4 annual average
684 five year sum ACE (1950-1954) 684/5 = 136.8 annual average
688 five year sum ACE (2000-2004) 688/5 = 137.6 annual average
793 five year sum ACE (1995-1999) 793/5 = 158.6 annual average

2005 = 225 ACE score. The "season" goes through November 30th
but all cyclones, even those rare ones in December are added to the
ACE of the year they happen. There is one more month before 2005
record book is closed.

If the preceding five years including 2005 are collected together:
2001 -- 106 15 9 4 Above average
2002 -- 66 12 4 2 Below average
2003 -- 175 16 7 3 Above average
(hyperactive)
2004 -- 225 14 9 6 Above average
(hyperactive)
2005 -- 225 23 13 7 Above average
(hyperactive)
797 five year sum ACE (2001-2005) (Current through
Delta).

We have established that there was never a hotter year than 1998 for
the corals in the seas.

This is not information which should be diluted by discussions of
glacially-slow (funny how that slogan became obsolete in our lifetime
-- now glaciers gallop) natural background climate change.

It's WRONG to shout "Fire" when there is none in a crowded theater, but
it is far WORSE to cry "No Fire" when there is one.

Before massive pollution and all the gassers, it was observed that the
earth has been warming its way out of an ice age. True, it was not
expected to happen at the speed that many scientists claim for the
human pollution added scenario, but the earth has run the fire / ice
cycle many times. Even humans, with our massive egos, cannot take
credit for ice ages nor for tropical Antartic climate before evolution
says primates were more than a vague possibility.

Totally false arguments. Humans are capable of impacting the
environment in massive ways. Before 1970 there were NO Dead Zones in
the oceans. In 1970 there was one knwn; in 1990 there were 75, in 2002
there were 150 of them.

Humans are causing species extinctions at a rate predicted to be 50,000
per year. These are permanent irrevokable changes.

It is false and fraudulent to play act that humans are powerless and
insignificant observers on a basically changeless world from generation
to generation. The Colorado River used to flow to the sea, in my
lifetime -- it may never do so again in humanities lifetime.

Don't pretend that your effects are not real.