On 23 Dec 2005 00:21:45 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

Let's do this one more time. Clinton lied about a blowjob. Many believe
that Bush lied about intelligence he had in his pocket so he could start
a war. If the last turns out to be true, these are not the same crimes.
Clinton's actions trashed Monica's dress, Bush's resulted in the death of
2,000 American citizens and 30,000 Iraqi bystanders.

Let me try this again? Does God punish you more if you break the 2nd
Commandment or the 3rd? They are both sins. A lie is a lie, and
Clinton lied and was *GIULTY*. If Bush lied and is proven, then he
too should be impeached and if *proven* like Clinton's was, should
suffer for it.

I believe around the age of 7 is when children who are asked about a
situation where a hungry person with no means steals a loaf of bread to
feed himself or family starts to differentiate, flipping from "stealing
is wrong" to "maybe stealing isn't always wrong".

And your point. A president lying under oath is wrong. Period!

Bush Senior (remember the "I don't know nothing about selling no weapons
to Iran" Bush?), when asked if he were having an affair, pointed out in
no uncertain terms that it was wrong of the press to ask that question.

To follow up on your earlier question, I firmly believe that some sins
are worse than others. Stealing the hard-earned money of the American
working class to give it to your buddies is worse than lying under oath
about a blowjob, or cheating on your wife. So is cherry picking
intelligence to start a war. So is rounding up Middle Easterners in the
US, and holding them uncharged and incommunicado. So is letting poor
people get even poorer trying to keep warm while the oil companies rape
them. All of those are higher up in the list of sins than spying on
American citizens, but if that's what we can get him on, so be it.
That's how the right treated Clinton's blowjob, and that's how I'm
looking at this.

You and I have had some interesting and polite talks over the years.
I respect you and hope that you respect me. I am despised by many on
this foruum because of my opions on Kerry. I have no regrets for
anything I have ever done or said. And I say this: Bush is the man
to lead us through this difficult time. We did not fight the
terrorists in the 90s and we are now stopping them from hurting us.
How do you think things would be if everyone was pulling for this war
(and Iraq is but a battle in a war) instead of undermining it all the
time. Ain't it wonderful that Al Jezera broadcasts on a regular basis
Deans words, "We can not win this war." I hope that the extreme left
does not make this war (and I'm not talking about Iraq) another
Vietnam.

End of thread for me. My words will not change anyone's belief, so
why argue about it. I have to get ready to go fishing down south.

Happy Hanukkah.