I doubt a bail roller is effecting anything there Bill. I'm pretty familiar
with your problem, I've been dealing with it for years as I use spinning
equiptment often. You're just not noticing the occasional loop, I'd bet on
it.

As for your high $ reel question, I always recommend using the quality reels
possible. My reels run me between $170 & 210 each, and I rarely experience
any problems with them mechanically. Of course your financial situation
would dictate the price of your toys understandably. As a note I use rods
that run 90-100 for the most part, I don't see a cause to spend more on
them. Not cheap, but far from top-of-the-line.

Warren

"bill allemann" wrote in message
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Warren,

I'll try to make the tensioning thing into a habit.
That sounds like it could be a factor. I haven't
really used 4# test before, so I'm in a learning curve here.

Also, a couple of people have mentioned the bail roller,
but it seems unlikely to me that the very light resistance
during a retrieve would create enought friction to spin the roller.
Or would I need to get a high $$ reel to get a truly free running
bail roller?

Thanks
Bill


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Bill your problem is probably that you get a tiny loop on your spool as
a
result of that near-weightless lure you're tossing. If you get such a
loop
& don't notice it your next cast usually will result in a nice ball of
nesting material. Try pulling your line taught after closing your bail,
befoere you start your retrieve.

Warren

"bill allemann" wrote in message
om...
Regarding the reel I used more, I wasn't using a bait that ever seemed
to
rotate at all (wacky worm),
and I tried letting all the line out with nothing tied on while the
boat
was
on the move, and the
problem repeated again fairly quickly. Not the first cast, but
probably
within 20 or so.
Regarding the bail roller, I'll look into that.
Thanks
Bill